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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #567 on: February 25, 2021, 02:03:23 AM »


My working device
Device measures 34.6"
Close enough to 34.8"

Orange band at 27" leaves me (6'0") at least 8" to ground, for Oswald 5"
I wouldn't describe even 5" as 'almost touching the ground', let alone 8"

Randle's 'carry' description leaves some leeway re hand, wrist and elbow positions.
'Like you do' does not cover a heavy rifle, and does not cover Oswalds probable intent to reduce 'eyes on' in an attempt to reduce the gun bag profile.

I wouldn't describe even 5" as 'almost touching the ground',

But Randle, who was watching from a distance, did.

If the package had indeed been 34.8" it would have reached, from the ground, to well above Oswald's hip. An impossible way to carry the package as described by Randle.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #568 on: February 25, 2021, 02:50:09 AM »
I wouldn't describe even 5" as 'almost touching the ground',

But Randle, who was watching from a distance, did.

If the package had indeed been 34.8" it would have reached, from the ground, to well above Oswald's hip. An impossible way to carry the package as described by Randle.

I wouldn't describe even 5" as 'almost touching the ground',

But Randle, who was watching from a distance, did.

If the package had indeed been 34.8" it would have reached, from the ground, to well above Oswald's hip. An impossible way to carry the package as described by Randle.

As described by Randle. Well after the event. After fists & jaws were clenched.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2021, 02:52:39 AM by Bill Chapman »

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #569 on: February 25, 2021, 03:11:15 AM »
As described by Randle. Well after the event. After fists & jaws were clenched.

Twist and turn all you want, but it's her testimony (and that of Buell Frazier) over your speculation to reach a predetermined conclusion.

The fact remains, and anybody who tries it will find out, that a bag of 27" will nearly reach the ground when carried, by a person's of Oswald's height, in the manner described by Randle. A 34.8" simply does not fit.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #570 on: February 25, 2021, 03:36:54 AM »
In CT Wonderland, the JFK Assassination Forum is a court of law.

In Chapman-delusion-land, it's his own personal clown-fest.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #571 on: February 25, 2021, 03:39:56 AM »
Mrs. RANDLE. He was carrying a package in a sort of a heavy brown bag, heavier than a grocery bag it looked to me. It was about, if I might measure, about this long, I suppose, and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it.
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27" wouldn't come anywhere near the ground unless he was using it for a pole-vault
34.8" bag comes just above the ground

Chapman unloads his BS with such certainty.  That all depends on how the package was carried.  I suppose Chapman pretends he knows what "carried it this way" means too.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2021, 03:43:01 AM by John Iacoletti »

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #572 on: February 25, 2021, 03:41:48 AM »
'Like you do' does not cover a heavy rifle, and especially does not cover Oswald's probable intent to reduce the gun bag profile in the 'hood. And beyond.

"Oswald's probable intent".  LOL.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #573 on: February 25, 2021, 07:39:49 AM »
Pretty sure Oswald's arm wasn't paralyzed and could bend and raise at the elbow. There's your first clue.

Now, can somebody produce a re-enact of Randle's exact view of Oswald as she watched him carry the package. And how long did she watch him and was her observation of him unbroken, continuous, or did she just glance. After all, no reason to study a package unless something gave an onlooker an impression that the carrier of said package was attempting to at least partially conceal it. Not too smart carrying a package that might appear sizable enough to carry a rifle on the day that the POTUS was scheduled to ride around downtown in a freakin' convertible.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2021, 08:57:09 AM by Bill Chapman »