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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #560 on: February 24, 2021, 09:17:33 PM »
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The next step on your journey to reality is to ask why Oswald would lie to Frazier about the contents of his bag

That's easy. Both Marina and Ruth Paine testified that they believed Oswald came to Irving on Thursday to make up with Marina and persuade her to live with him again. That's not something you share with a 19 year old co-worker, like Frazier. It's far easier to tell a white lie about picking up some curtain rods.

why he would deny carrying any such long bag to the police if that bag actually existed and could be found in the building to confirm that it did not contain a rifle.

First of all, the quality of the answer depends on the quality of the question. In other words, if you ask Oswald what was in the "long bag" when he does not consider the bag long, he will reply with a denial of having carried a long bag. Secondly, Oswald wasn't shown the bag they found at the TSBD, nor was he asked if he had carried a broken down rifle in it, so he had no idea what size bag they were talking about. The interrogation reports are of no value to justify any kind of a conclusion regarding the bag Oswald actually carried and/or it's content.

Oswald wasn't shown the bag they found at the TSBD,

Yes, you're right Martin,  and isn't that strange?   We know they displayed a heavy weight brown paper bag to Buell Frazier, and he told them that the bag was not the flimsy light weight paper bag that he had seen on the rear seat of his car.

And they dis played the paper sack to Linnie Mae....and she also said that it wasn't the bag that she saw Lee carry that morning.....She said the bag that the FBI showed her was much longer than the bag Lee carried.   And indeed Lee couldn't have carried a three foot long bag in the manner that Linne Mae described.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #561 on: February 24, 2021, 09:32:06 PM »
All things in the contrarian fantasy world remain possible.  There are no facts.  Only endless rabbit hole possibilities.

In “Richard Strawman Smith’s” fantasy world, his endless conjecture, speculation, and handwaving constitutes “facts”.

And we should accept his conjecture that the bag Frazier saw contained a broken down Mannlicher-Carcano rifle merely because “Richard” wants it to be so. Wow.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #562 on: February 24, 2021, 09:36:40 PM »
They may very well have shown Oswald CE142 — maybe even handed it to him — and told him that Frazier said Oswald carried it into work that day (which would have been a lie). Oswald naturally denied carrying that bag.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #563 on: February 24, 2021, 10:58:21 PM »
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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #564 on: February 24, 2021, 10:58:56 PM »
They may very well have shown Oswald CE142 — maybe even handed it to him — and told him that Frazier said Oswald carried it into work that day (which would have been a lie). Oswald naturally denied carrying that bag.

They may very well have shown Oswald CE142

This raises an interesting point....  When did Lt Day dust the brown paper with black finger print powder??   Clearly he would have had to have a reason to believe Lee had handled that paper.  ( it wasn't a bag)   Did Frazier ever say that the paper that he was shown had finger print powder on it??
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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #565 on: February 24, 2021, 11:06:48 PM »
And ever deeper goes the CTer rabbit hole bottomless pit of desperation.

You people.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #566 on: February 25, 2021, 12:25:01 AM »
And indeed Lee couldn't have carried a three foot long bag in the manner that Linne Mae described.

Mrs. RANDLE. He was carrying a package in a sort of a heavy brown bag, heavier than a grocery bag it looked to me. It was about, if I might measure, about this long, I suppose, and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it.
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27" wouldn't come anywhere near the ground unless he was using it for a pole-vault
34.8" bag comes just above the ground
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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #567 on: February 25, 2021, 12:32:35 AM »
'Almost touching the ground'--Randle
27" wouldn't come anywhere near the ground unless he using it for a pole-vault

Once again you demonstrate that you know absolutely nothing about this case.
Have you tried to hold a tape measure, set to 27'', in the way Randle described it? I seriously doubt it.
It does indeed almost touch the ground.
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