Then went inside with the curtain rods

[Martin Weidmann]

Lee Oswald did not need curtain rods. He never complained to his landlady about a lack of curtains in his rented room. His "alcove" (room) at the North Beckley boarding house had curtains in place and Venetian blinds. There is no evidence that Lee Oswald was contemplating a career as an interior decorator.

Oh boy, when are you guys going to focus on something less speculative and far more relevant to the case?

The fact that Oswald was staying at a roominghouse does not preclude him bringing curtain roads on Friday morning. He asked Marina to move back in with him, which obviously couldn't have happened at the roominghouse. So, for all we know, he may well have been looking for an appartment prior to his trip to Irving and brought the curtain rods for that. Another possibility is that he simply lied to Frazier, instead of telling that 19 year old kid, that he was really going to Irving to make up with his wife. Yet another possibility is that he did somebody a favor (without knowing he was being manipulated) to pick up some curtain rods, which were collected by the person involved some time in the morning of Friday 11/22/63.

It really makes very little difference what really was in the bag. If it wasn't the MC rifle, the whole paper bag matter is completely insignificant. So, rather than speculate about what wasn't in the bag, can you or anybody of your ilk provide a shred of evidence to show that there actually was a rifle in that bag? I seriously doubt it!

[Ross Lidell]

Oh boy, when are you guys going to focus on something less speculative and far more relevant to the case?

The fact that Oswald was staying at a roominghouse does not preclude him bringing curtain roads on Friday morning. He asked Marina to move back in with him, which obviously couldn't have happened at the roominghouse. So, for all we know, he may well have been looking for an appartment prior to his trip to Irving and brought the curtain rods for that. Another possibility is that he simply lied to Frazier, instead of telling that 19 year old kid, that he was really going to Irving to make up with his wife. Yet another possibility is that he did somebody a favor (without knowing he was being manipulated) to pick up some curtain rods, which were collected by the person involved some time in the morning of Friday 11/22/63.

It really makes very little difference what really was in the bag. If it wasn't the MC rifle, the whole paper bag matter is completely insignificant. So, rather than speculate about what wasn't in the bag, can you or anybody of your ilk provide a shred of evidence to show that there actually was a rifle in that bag? I seriously doubt it!

S P E C U L A T I O N

Unjustified speculation! 

[Bill Chapman]

Lee Oswald did not need curtain rods. He never complained to his landlady about a lack of curtains in his rented room. His "alcove" (room) at the North Beckley boarding house had curtains in place and Venetian blinds. There is no evidence that Lee Oswald was contemplating a career as an interior decorator.

'interior decorator'

Well, an army buddy did mention that Oswald was effeminate, so.. 

[Martin Weidmann]

S P E C U L A T I O N

Unjustified speculation! 

Of course it is speculation, just like the crap you present. That was the entire point I was making.

Or did you think that when you speculate it suddenly becomes evidence?

P A T H E T I C.   

[Ross Lidell]

Of course it is speculation, just like the crap you present. That was the entire point I was making.

Or did you think that when you speculate it suddenly becomes evidence?

P A T H E T I C.   

My statement about Lee Oswald "interior decorator" is obviously satirical.

Your speculation is serious, or is it?

There is such a thing as "justified" speculation. Things we don't know but can guess based on known or likely prior events.

For example:

-- Where was Oswald going after he left the rooming-house at North Beckley?

-- Would Oswald have been "involved" in the assassination of President Kennedy had Marina agreed to reconcile with him on the evening of 21 November 1963?

There's no evidence that Lee Oswald had inspected an apartment for rent and observed there were no curtains in a room. You just implied this to construct a negative reply.

Based on all that we know: Oswald did not need curtains and therefore did not need curtain rods.

In my opinion: The curtain rod story (attributed to Lee Harvey Oswald) is indicative of a pre-crime "consciousness of guilt".

[Alan Ford]

My statement about Lee Oswald "interior decorator" is obviously satirical.

Your speculation is serious, or is it?

There is such a thing as "justified" speculation. Things we don't know but can guess based on known or likely prior events.

For example:

-- Where was Oswald going after he left the rooming-house at North Beckley?

-- Would Oswald have been "involved" in the assassination of President Kennedy had Marina agreed to reconcile with him on the evening of 21 November 1963?

There's no evidence that Lee Oswald had inspected an apartment for rent and observed there were no curtains in a room. You just implied this to construct a negative reply.

Based on all that we know: Oswald did not need curtains and therefore did not need curtain rods.

In my opinion: The curtain rod story is indicative of a pre-crime "consciousness of guilt".

What's not speculative is that two curtain rods were submitted to DPD Crime Scene Search Section lab on 3/15/64 to be tested for Mr Oswald's fingerprints.

If I were to speculate that you, Mr Lidell, can't explain the above documented fact, how would you prove my speculation wrong?

 

[Bill Chapman]

@Ross

L'adorateur d'Oswald Mr Weidmann passe beaucoup trop de temps avec ses seuls amis: Tom Collins, Jim Beam et Jack Daniels. Et bizarre qu'il se plaint toujours des gens qui spéculent; et sur une plateforme de discussion rien de moins.