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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #288 on: February 04, 2021, 04:13:19 PM »
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Typical desperate, needy CTer
You STILL have no idea that I'm not interested in your pet theory

And you have no idea that nobody is interested in your "witty" repartee.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #288 on: February 04, 2021, 04:13:19 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #289 on: February 04, 2021, 04:15:08 PM »
Maybe, Mr Always Logged In, you can tag along and show us why Oswald would want to palm his sandwich and then jam the top of his lunch bag into his armpit.

Who cares?

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #290 on: February 04, 2021, 04:19:31 PM »
Even if you believe there is some doubt that Oswald carried the rifle in his bag that morning (and there is no real doubt on this point)

Of course there is.  You have zero (and I mean ZERO) evidence of that.

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his rifle was found on the 6th floor.

"His rifle".  LOL.

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   Only a very small number of adults had access to the location where he kept his rifle in the Paine's garage.

You have zero evidence that the rifle allegedly found on the sixth floor was ever in the Paine garage.

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This is not Sherlock Holmes material.

No, it's the "Richard Smith" speculation bus.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #290 on: February 04, 2021, 04:19:31 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #291 on: February 04, 2021, 04:23:54 PM »
Says the guy who has posted the exact same form at least a thousands times.  It's a fact that Oswald denied carrying any curtain rods to the police despite telling Frazier that is what he had in his bag.

You don't know for a fact hat Oswald said to Frazier or to Fritz.

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Why would he lie to the police about having curtain rods?

Is that supposed to somehow be evidence of murder?

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And what explanation is there for this strange long bag found with Oswald's prints on it.  It is found next to the SN.

It is?  By whom?

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  There was no apparent work-related purpose for any such bag in that building.

Gee, some paper used for wrapping book orders was found in a building that wraps and ships book orders.  How odd.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #292 on: February 04, 2021, 04:24:47 PM »
In fact, Oswald lies about his ownership of the rifle even though it is linked to him via a serial number.

LOL

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #292 on: February 04, 2021, 04:24:47 PM »


Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #293 on: February 04, 2021, 04:36:31 PM »
He was planning on assassinating the President and you think he would be deterred by the "risk" of making a paper bag?  Wow.   What "risk" would that entail?  If anyone asked what he was doing (and who would care?) all he had to do is come up with some lie like he did with Frazier.  And why are you so hung on this bag?  Even if you believe there is some doubt that Oswald carried the rifle in his bag that morning (and there is no real doubt on this point) his rifle was found on the 6th floor.   Only a very small number of adults had access to the location where he kept his rifle in the Paine's garage.  None of those people were at the TSBD.  The only person who had access to that rifle and the building where it was found was Oswald.  This is not Sherlock Holmes material.  If you want to believe he smuggled the rifle into the building on some prior occasion or some other way, then knock yourself out.  It really doesn't matter HOW he got the rifle into the building but the FACT that his rifle was found in the building that matters.

He was planning on assassinating the President and you think he would be deterred by the "risk" of making a paper bag?  Wow.   

He was, was he? How in the world would you even know something like that and what do you say to the LNs that claim that Oswald only decided to try to kill Kennedy after Marina turned him down?

What "risk" would that entail?  If anyone asked what he was doing (and who would care?) all he had to do is come up with some lie like he did with Frazier.

The risk would be that he would be noticed prior to the crime doing something unsual which people like Troy West would remember. Btw what lie did he tell Frazier and how would you even know that?

And why are you so hung on this bag?  Even if you believe there is some doubt that Oswald carried the rifle in his bag that morning (and there is no real doubt on this point) his rifle was found on the 6th floor.   

There is not only massive doubt about Oswald carrying the rifle in a paper bag on 11/22/63, it also is by no way clear that it was "his rifle" that was found at the TSBD.

Only a very small number of adults had access to the location where he kept his rifle in the Paine's garage.  None of those people were at the TSBD.  The only person who had access to that rifle and the building where it was found was Oswald.  This is not Sherlock Holmes material.

It's indeed no Sherlock Holmes material. It's fairytale material from la la land.

Does the legal objection "assumes facts not in evidence" mean anything to you?

If you want to believe he smuggled the rifle into the building on some prior occasion or some other way, then knock yourself out.

It's not what I want to believe that matters. It's what you want to believe to make the fairytale work, at least to some extent. Unlike what your usual circular "logic" suggests, there is actually not a shred of evidence that Oswald ever smuggled a rifle of any kind into the TSBD.

It really doesn't matter HOW he got the rifle into the building but the FACT that his rifle was found in the building that
matters.


Backing away from the bogus paper bag speculation? But for once we agree to some extent. To make the agreement perfect all you need to do now is prove that (1) the MC rifle found at the TSBD was indeed owned by Oswald and (2) that the rifle was actually fired on 11/22/63. Can you do that?

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #294 on: February 04, 2021, 04:45:38 PM »
"Speeding Oswald".  Another wild claim.  The hits keep on coming.

Wild only to Oswald-lovers

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #294 on: February 04, 2021, 04:45:38 PM »


Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #295 on: February 04, 2021, 05:37:29 PM »
Wild only to Oswald-lovers
Didja' ever notice that every and any evidence/claim that is made that is critical of Oswald has to be refuted by his defenders? Every single one. It doesn't matter how minor or innocuous. It doesn't have to be related to the assassination. Anything. They just don't like criticism of him.

Trump once said, "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"

Oswald could say, "I could shoot someone on Elm Street in Dallas and I wouldn't lose any of my supporters, OK?"

Both are right.