Then went inside with the curtain rods

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2021, 01:19:09 AM »
Can you explain why the authorities who you falsely believe framed Oswald and successfully suppressed his curtain rods would suddenly months later on their own motion bring them to light and even test them for fingerprints?  Can you make sense of that crazy narrative?  Why would they test curtain rods for Oswald's prints under that circumstance?  How would they forever silence the person who found them?  Do you even realize how absurd it is to suggest that is what happened? Let me guess.  No.  You are clinging desperately to one pedantic interpretation of a form and filling in the details to suit your fantasy.

Why would they test curtain rods for Oswald's prints under that circumstance?

Maybe you should ask them (whoever they are) as the document shows it happened. So, why don't you deal with that and come up with a plausible explanation?

You are clinging desperately to one pedantic interpretation of a form

So, why don't you provide another interpretation?

Oh wait, did I just ask you for an answer? When will I ever learn....

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2021, 05:39:58 PM »


You are clinging desperately to one pedantic interpretation of a form

So, why don't you provide another interpretation?

Oh wait, did I just ask you for an answer? When will I ever learn....

Then what?  You would dismiss it as "speculation" and we would go round and round down the rabbit hole.  The narrative suggested makes no sense.  End of story.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2021, 07:19:37 PM »
Indeed so, Mr Weidmann-------------------the Warren Gullibles are a funny bunch. You make a claim and they say 'You've no evidence!'. You show them evidence and they say 'No way would your evil conspirators have allowed this evidence to exist therefore it's not evidence!'

My dear Mr Ford.... I sincerely hope that you will accept this as constructive criticism  , because I believe that you have the potential to be a real asset in exposing the truth.  ...BUT ....You could be describing yourself  'You've no evidence!'. You show them him evidence and theyhe says...No Way....

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2021, 07:46:14 PM »
Then what?  You would dismiss it as "speculation" and we would go round and round down the rabbit hole.  The narrative suggested makes no sense.  End of story.

That's what I thought. Hiding behind the "you would dismiss it anyway" excuse...

I asked you to provide another interpretation. It doesn't matter if it's speculation or not. I merely want to find out why you dismiss one interpretation, yet can or will not provide another one. Saying it makes no sense is just a cop out. Parts of the WC narrative make no sense to me either, so is that the "end of story" also?

Go on, then, give us another interpretation...  Perhaps I agree with you. Who knows?

And, "Richard", let's not forget that anybody who dismisses something out of hand and not gives and alternative interpretation, is, by your own definition, a contrarian!
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2021, 08:59:42 PM »
Then what?  You would dismiss it as "speculation" and we would go round and round down the rabbit hole.  The narrative suggested makes no sense.  End of story.

So give us a narrative that
a) explains the information and dates on the document
b) makes sense to you.

Should be no trouble to a man of your formidable intellect and moral courage! Thumb1:

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2021, 12:14:12 AM »


OK, let's game this out......

1. Person X, a Depository employee, comes forward to the authorities with curtain rods s/he has found in the Depository

2. Person X is thanked and told, 'Don't worry, we will look into this'

3. Curtain rods are submitted to Lt. Day's lab (3/15/64)

4. Curtain rods are tested for Mr Oswald's prints

5. Curtain rods are formally released (3/24/64)

6. Person X is shown the submission/release form and told, 'OK, so we looked into this and Oswald's prints aren't on them----we ask you not to talk to anyone about the rods, it would only cause confusion'

7. The submission/release form is kept on file for the contingency that Person X----------or someone Person X has told-----------goes public: the form allows the 'investigating' authorities to assure folks that this was "looked into" thoroughly

8. Word of the discovery of curtain rods at the Depository spreads, however, and Mr Roy Truly is asked to give an on-the-record statement that no curtain rods were found at the Depository

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2021, 01:41:51 AM »


OK, let's game this out......

1. Person X, a Depository employee, comes forward to the authorities with curtain rods s/he has found in the Depository

2. Person X is thanked and told, 'Don't worry, we will look into this'

3. Curtain rods are submitted to Lt. Day's lab (3/15/64)

4. Curtain rods are tested for Mr Oswald's prints

5. Curtain rods are formally released (3/24/64)

6. Person X is shown the submission/release form and told, 'OK, so we looked into this and Oswald's prints aren't on them----we ask you not to talk to anyone about the rods, it would only cause confusion'

7. The submission/release form is kept on file for the contingency that Person X----------or someone Person X has told-----------goes public: the form allows the 'investigating' authorities to assure folks that this was "looked into" thoroughly

8. Word of the discovery of curtain rods at the Depository spreads, however, and Mr Roy Truly is asked to give an on-the-record statement that no curtain rods were found at the Depository

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How and ever! It is felt that something more needs to be done to destroy the notion that Mr Oswald really did bring curtain rods into work that day. And so an elaborate charade is put together at the Paine residence on 3/23: the 'discovery' and handing over to Agent Howlett of 2 curtain rods (to be marked 275 & 276!).

'Proof' that they never left the Paine household the morning of 11/22/63! 'Proof' that LHO lied to the man giving him a ride!!