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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Touring the Tippit Scene
« Reply #192 on: January 02, 2021, 09:10:13 AM »
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Nonsense is your M.O..   ::)

Ah, there it is again. Instant dismissal of anything that might question the fairytale story you fanatically believe yet can not defend.

Calling something nonsense without actually looking at it is your M.O.
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #193 on: January 03, 2021, 05:47:24 PM »
Nonsense is your M.O..   ::)

Even if that was true, Charlie....  It is a fact that the WR is a fairy tale for gullible and gutless people.  ( People who lack the fortitude to accept FACTS because those facts reveal that their cherished fairy tale is a damned lie)

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« Reply #194 on: January 03, 2021, 06:10:33 PM »
Even if that was true, Charlie....  It is a fact that the WR is a fairy tale for gullible and gutless people.  ( People who lack the fortitude to accept FACTS because those facts reveal that their cherished fairy tale is a damned lie)

It appears that your idea of what constitutes a fact is at odds with reality.

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« Reply #195 on: January 03, 2021, 06:25:31 PM »
It appears that your idea of what constitutes a fact is at odds with reality.

Or your idea is.

And btw, how does "it appear"? You're not back to your usual "my opinion is superior to yours" BS again, are you?

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Re: Touring the Tippit Scene
« Reply #196 on: January 03, 2021, 06:40:14 PM »
So, did Tippit really work at the Texas theatre?

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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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« Reply #197 on: January 03, 2021, 08:48:18 PM »
So, did Tippit really work at the Texas theatre?
Dale Myers account has him working part time as a security guard at the Stevens Park Theater in Oak Cliff but not the Texas Theater. It was his second part time job; he also worked security at a local popular barbecue restaurant. This is from the Myers book.

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« Reply #198 on: January 03, 2021, 09:19:11 PM »
Nonsense is your M.O..   ::)
The chief/main author of the Warren Commission Report was Norman Redlich. Redlich wrote the first six chapters including the description of the shooting. He was also one of the key figures in the single bullet theory; several of the staffers came up with the theory simultaneously. Without Redlich's tireless work - he would spend 18+ hours on the job - the report probably wouldn't haven been produced. He was essential to its creation.

Redlich, pictured below, was a strong liberal/leftist and a fierce critic of Joe McCarthy. He represented several people called before McCarthy's hearings and he denounced McCarthy for the demagogue that he was. Redlich was against the execution of the Rosenbergs (he was a life long opponent of the death penalty). He and Hoover disliked one another. He was the Dean of the NYU law school and lifetime supporter of the rights of the accused. He had a very distinguished career.

Here is Redlich on the assassination: "I think there are simply a great many people who cannot accept what I believe to be the simple truth, that one rather insignificant person was able to assassinate the president of the United States." Yes, that's sadly what happened.

For these conspiracists to claim that he would join up with essentially a right wing coup and coverup what happened is preposterous. If one thinks the WC report was a lie then that's what you have to believe. It's unavoidable.

Here's Redlich's obituary: https://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/11/education/11redlich.html




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« Reply #199 on: January 03, 2021, 09:36:50 PM »
The chief/main author of the Warren Commission Report was Norman Redlich. Redlich wrote the first six chapters including the description of the shooting. He was also one of the key figures in the single bullet theory; several of the staffers came up with the theory simultaneously. Without Redlich's tireless work - he would spend 18+ hours on the job - the report probably wouldn't haven been produced. He was essential to its creation.

Redlich, pictured below, was a strong liberal/leftist and a fierce critic of Joe McCarthy. He represented several people called before McCarthy's hearings and he denounced McCarthy for the demagogue that he was. Redlich was against the execution of the Rosenbergs (he was a life long opponent of the death penalty). He and Hoover disliked one another. He was the Dean of the NYU law school and lifetime supporter of the rights of the accused. He had a very distinguished career.

Here is Redlich on the assassination: "I think there are simply a great many people who cannot accept what I believe to be the simple truth, that one rather insignificant person was able to assassinate the president of the United States." Yes, that's sadly what happened.

For these conspiracists to claim that he would join up with essentially a right wing coup and coverup what happened is preposterous. If one thinks the WC report was a lie then that's what you have to believe. It's unavoidable.

Here's Redlich's obituary: https://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/11/education/11redlich.html

Here is Redlich on the assassination: "I think there are simply a great many people who cannot accept what I believe to be the simple truth, that one rather insignificant person was able to assassinate the president of the United States." Yes, that's sadly what happened.

This is a rather pathetic opinion, designed to lump all sorts of people together into one "disbelievers" group. I have lived long enough and seen too many things to ever believe that it wouldn't be possible for an insignificant person to kill a President. Of course that could happen. But that's not the question. The real question that needs to be answered is; did it happen? And for that, you need proof.

So, show the proof (and not a bunch of speculative assumptions to tie together scant pieces of physical evidence) and I, for one, will have no problem accepting that a nobody killed Kennedy.

For these conspiracists to claim that he would join up with essentially a right wing coup and coverup what happened is preposterous. If one thinks the WC report was a lie then that's what you have to believe. It's unavoidable.

This assumes that Redlich would have had to been involved in a sinister conspiracy, where the main conspirators held regular meeting to plan their next move. There are alternatives. As the saying goes; garbage in, garbage out. Present an honorable man with a set of "facts" supported by manipulated evidence and he will come to the wrong conclusion and defend it as the right one. Things aren't always as black and white as some LNs want to make them out to be.

Let's see if you (want to) understand how something like that could hypothetically work. For instance; a superior officer (who himself is under orders from somebody higher up) tells a subordinate to go to the Secret Service garage and search for bullet fragments in the President's limo. The subordinate doesn't know a team of FBI experts is on it's way to do the same. So, the subordinate disturbs the crime scene, fails to make photographs or document anything, and just removes the bullet fragements from the limo. He then brings them to his superior, who in turn passes them on to a representative of the man above him. No documents are signed and no chain of custody is established. A little later the representative returns and hands back the bullet fragment to the superior officer, who in turn hands them back to his subordinate with the order to deliver them to the FBI experts and tell them they came from the car. The FBI experts have no other real option but to accept the fragments and believe that they came from the limo, and so those fragments end up in the evidence against Oswald because they turn out to be bullets fired from an MC rifle.

It is quite possible, in this scenario, that none of the men involved were part of any kind of conspiracy, at least not knowingly. But it could be they were used. They just followed orders and the secrecy act would ensure that they would not talk to anybody about what happened for a long time. So, now this evidence reaches Redlich, through a report and/or testimony of an FBI expert. Does Redlich have any reason to suspect there could be something wrong with this evidence? The answer is of course; no!
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