The Bus Stop Farce

[Charles Collins]

Your “timeline” is full of speculation.

And what speculation would that be exactly?

Your “reasons” for Bowley to be so concerned about being on time are a prime example of your speculative wishful thinking. His daughter and wife were most likely accustomed to having to wait a few minutes for people who were running a little behind schedule.

Now who is speculating for a selfserving purpose? You kinda forgot that Bowley looked at his watch when he arrived at the crime scene and it said 1.10.....

And that's not all. The events that followed; Callaway's arrival, the ambulance ride and the arrival at Methodist where Tippit was declared DOA at 1.15, as corroborated by Detective Davenport doesn't leave much room for Bowley's watch to be wrong.

I doubt that Markham was always at work on time.

More speculation... and not a shred of evidence (as per usual)

Like I said in the original post, the naysayers will still cling to their beliefs. Sigh...

At least it is a belief backed up by circumstantial evidence. The LNs just believe with no evidence at all, which is exactly why you are still trying to discredit the timeline by questioning individual parts of it rather than providing a plausible alternative that would fit all the known facts.... Some things never change.

And are any of those “known facts” contained in your “timeline “?

[Martin Weidmann]

And are any of those “known facts” contained in your “timeline “?

Change of tactic, now that you have failed to provide details I allegedly speculated about?

If you have to ask what the facts are, you clearly don't understand the timeline you are trying to attack with hot air.

Fact: Markham took the same bus to work every day at some point in time between 1.12 and 1.22
Fact: The walking distance between Markham's house on 9th street and the bus stop on Jefferson is two blocks or roughly 6
        minutes
Fact: Bowley picked up his daughter from school and school bells normally ring exactly on time.
Fact: Bowley arrived at the crime scene just after the shots were fired and before Callaway got there
Fact: Bowley looked at his watch which said 1.10
Fact: The only distance Callaway had to cover after hearing the shots was half a block. Running he could have done it in one
        minute
Fact: Detective Davenport saw Tippit's ambulance en route and followed it to Methodist Hospital
Fact: A justice of the peace wrote an authorization for autopsy of Tippit's body and noted he was found DOA at 1.15
Fact: In his report Davenport confirms that Tippit was declared dead at 1.15.

Now show me your facts for an alternative timeline with the killing of Tippit happening at 1.14 or 115

[Walt Cakebread]

Change of tactic, now that you have failed to provide details I speculated about?

If you have to ask what the facts are, you clearly don't understand the timeline you are trying to attack with hot air.

Fact: Markham took the same bus to work every day at some point in time between 1.12 and 1.22
Fact: The walking distance between Markham's house on 9th street and the bus stop on Jefferson is two block or roughly 6
        minutes
Fact: Bowley picked up his daughter from school and school bells normally ring exactly on time.
Fact: Bowley arrived at the crime scene just after the shots were fired and before Callaway got there
Fact: Bowley looked at his watch which said 1.10
Fact: The only distance Callaway had to cover after hearing the shots was half a block. Running he could have done it in one
        minute
Fact: Detective Davenport saw Tippit's ambulance en route and followed it to Methodist Hospital
Fact: A justice of the peace wrote an authorization for autopsy of Tippit's body and noted he was found DOA at 1.15
Fact: In his report Davenport confirms that Tippit was declared at 1.15.

Now show me your facts for an alternative timeline with the killing of Tippit happening at 1.14 or 115

BRAVO!!  Martin.....   You're pinning em down with the FACTS.

[Charles Collins]

Change of tactic, now that you have failed to provide details I speculated about?

If you have to ask what the facts are, you clearly don't understand the timeline you are trying to attack with hot air.

Fact: Markham took the same bus to work every day at some point in time between 1.12 and 1.22
Fact: The walking distance between Markham's house on 9th street and the bus stop on Jefferson is two block or roughly 6
        minutes
Fact: Bowley picked up his daughter from school and school bells normally ring exactly on time.
Fact: Bowley arrived at the crime scene just after the shots were fired and before Callaway got there
Fact: Bowley looked at his watch which said 1.10
Fact: The only distance Callaway had to cover after hearing the shots was half a block. Running he could have done it in one
        minute
Fact: Detective Davenport saw Tippit's ambulance en route and followed it to Methodist Hospital
Fact: A justice of the peace wrote an authorization for autopsy of Tippit's body and noted he was found DOA at 1.15
Fact: In his report Davenport confirms that Tippit was declared at 1.15.

Now show me your facts for an alternative timeline with the killing of Tippit happening at 1.14 or 115

Your contention that Markham would have been at the bus stop at Jefferson by 1:15 is speculation on your part.

Your contentions that Bowley’s watch was accurate and that he was on your dreamed up time table are speculations on your part.

Your contention that the time that is written for the death of Tippit was intended to indicate the time that the doctor declared him dead (instead of the actual time of his death) is speculation on your part.

Without your speculation as context, the other items are not relevant.

[Martin Weidmann]

Your contention that Markham would have been at the bus stop at Jefferson by 1:15 is speculation on your part.

Your contentions that Bowley’s watch was accurate and that he was on your dreamed up time table are speculations on your part.

Your contention that the time that is written for the death of Tippit was intended to indicate the time that the doctor declared him dead (instead of the actual time of his death) is speculation on your part.

Without your speculation as context, the other items are not relevant.

Your contention that Markham would have been at the bus stop at Jefferson by 1:15 is speculation on your part.

BS. Markham herself said she catched her regular bus at around 1.15. There is no speculation on my part. It is factual information provided by a witness. You, on the other hand, want to speculate without a shred of evidence that she normally wasn't at the bus stop at 1.15.

Your contentions that Bowley’s watch was accurate and that he was on your dreamed up time table are speculations on your part.

Wrong again. It was Bowley himself who said in his affidavit that he looked at his watch and it said 1.10. I merely quoted that fact. You on the other hand are speculating, without a shred of evidence, that his watch wasn't accurate.

Your contention that the time that is written for the death of Tippit was intended to indicate the time that the doctor declared him dead (instead of the actual time of his death) is speculation on your part.

Again, I merely stated the fact that the DOA time the Justice of the Peace wrote on the authorization for autopsy was 1.15. It is again you who is speculating that the DOA time given on that official document was not the time the doctor declared him dead and you are doing so, as per usual, without a shred of evidence.

I on the other hand have a report from Detective Davenport, who was present at the hospital, in which he confirmed the DOA time of 1.15 and thus corroborates the DOA time on the document.

It appears that you are having great difficulty in understanding the difference between a fact and speculation.

And once again you are trying to attack a timelime that contains corroboration for each item, by cherry picking individual details of the timeline. It isn't going to work. If my timeline is wrong, you need to provide an alternative one which covers all the known facts.

But you can't, can you now?

[Richard Smith]

As John always says; an appeal to "common sense" is usually made when no evidence is available.

In which tweedle dum cites tweedle dee in advocating against the use of common sense.  No one ever accused the Brothers Dumb of using any of that.  Bravo.

[Richard Smith]

BRAVO!!  Martin.....   You're pinning em down with the FACTS.

[Martin Weidmann]

In which tweedle dum cites tweedle dee in advocating against the use of common sense.  No one ever accused the Brothers Dumb of using any of that.  Bravo.

There is nothing wrong with common sense when it is applied based on factual information.

You and your ilk use "common sense" when you have no factual information. With your particular kind of "common sense" you can find anybody guilty of anything. But you probably won't understand something so basic. It's only common sense to conclude that it's way beyond your level of comprehension.