How did Ruby get into the basement?

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: How did Ruby get into the basement?
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2020, 04:16:52 PM »
Ruby and Tippit were going to be inplicated in a conspiracy to kill JFK. The DPD and Ruby both needed the patsy dead.

How exactly was shooting Oswald in the presence of multiple witnesses including law enforcement and a live TV crew going to assist Ruby?  Going to jail for murder doesn't appear to do a whole lot for his cause. 

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: How did Ruby get into the basement?
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2020, 06:04:38 PM »
As Bugliosi stated, he would have been 'driven to his death'. Instead, he's out there on his own, free to blab to the press and cops.

You CTers are the real patsies, wasting your lives trying to protect a cold-blooded killer.

Here's the "patsy" that "they" needed to silence because he would expose their conspiracy. Those things in his face are microphones. The big thing on the right is a live TV camera.



Oswald met in private with his wife, his brother, his mother and the head of the Dallas Bar Association. He was able to make unmonitored phone calls.  At any of these moments he could have exposed the conspiracy.

If you need to silence a person you simply don't allow those things to happen.

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: How did Ruby get into the basement?
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2020, 06:27:32 PM »
Here's the "patsy" that "they" needed to silence because he would expose their conspiracy. Those things in his face are microphones. The big thing on the right is a live TV camera.



Oswald met in private with his wife, his brother, his mother and the head of the Dallas Bar Association. He was able to make unmonitored phone calls.  At any of these moments he could have exposed the conspiracy.

If you need to silence a person you simply don't allow those things to happen.

What if Oswald wasn't "in" on the Conspiracy?

Like what if he realized he was the "Patsy" but didn't know who set him up?

Killing him prevented his case from going to Trial and allowed space for those involved with the coverup to manufacture evidence...

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: How did Ruby get into the basement?
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2020, 08:15:31 PM »
What if Oswald wasn't "in" on the Conspiracy?

Like what if he realized he was the "Patsy" but didn't know who set him up?

Killing him prevented his case from going to Trial and allowed space for those involved with the coverup to manufacture evidence...

Doesn't make much sense.  If Oswald doesn't know who set him up, then why silence him?  He couldn't implicate anyone else and if the conspirators could "manufacture" evidence, then they could do so regardless of whether Oswald was alive or dead.  Oswald's protests of innocence would be meaningless if the evidence convicted him.  Recruiting Ruby (a screwball) to murder Oswald in police custody and then keep him silent while spending the rest of his life in jail would be a lot more risky.

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: How did Ruby get into the basement?
« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2020, 09:10:06 PM »
Doesn't make much sense.  If Oswald doesn't know who set him up, then why silence him? 

It depends. He might've known enough to eventually give clues on who set him up.

Assuming Oswald didn't have amnesia like Sirhan Sirhan, I don't see why Conspiracy plotters would let him live long enough to Lawyer up and go to Trial...

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Re: How did Ruby get into the basement?
« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2020, 11:14:00 PM »
It depends. He might've known enough to eventually give clues on who set him up.

Assuming Oswald didn't have amnesia like Sirhan Sirhan, I don't see why Conspiracy plotters would let him live long enough to Lawyer up and go to Trial...

They let Ruby lawyer up and go to trial.  Wouldn't Ruby be in on the conspiracy if he were the designated hit man?

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Re: How did Ruby get into the basement?
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2020, 12:25:24 AM »
They let Ruby lawyer up and go to trial.  Wouldn't Ruby be in on the conspiracy if he were the designated hit man?

Ruby knew many of the Dallas Cops and the DA were dirty and wouldn’t have talked unless he was moved.