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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1687 on: July 15, 2026, 11:43:26 PM »
I don’t think echos or reverberation effect following the initial muzzle blast is the answer to this “back to back” perception of a significant majority of witnesses hearing the spacing of the last 2 shots.

If this phenomenon is happening then should not there be that effect for each of the 3 shots resulting in witnesses thinking they heard 6 shots and the spacing would be 1.(2)…..3.(4)..5.(6)?

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1688 on: July 16, 2026, 12:56:39 AM »
I don’t think echos or reverberation effect following the initial muzzle blast is the answer to this “back to back” perception of a significant majority of witnesses hearing the spacing of the last 2 shots.

If this phenomenon is happening then should not there be that effect for each of the 3 shots resulting in witnesses thinking they heard 6 shots and the spacing would be 1.(2)…..3.(4)..5.(6)?

If the sound they heard was the impact of the bullet on the skull, they would not have heard that on the earlier shots. If the sound was the shock wave of the bullet, each bullet had a different trajectory so it is plausible that they could have only heard a distinct double sound for the third shot based on where they were standing. Another plausible explanation is that they heard a double sound for the earlier shots and simply did not remember it. I lean toward the third explanation. Witnesses just aren't very good at perfectly remembering every detail of the things they saw and heard. Out brains are not equipped with DVRs. We tend to remember bits and pieces of events, not the entire event.

The following article explains the auditory issues much better than I can:

https://biologyinsights.com/gunshot-audio-muzzle-blast-shock-waves-and-health-impact/

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1689 on: July 16, 2026, 01:19:18 AM »
If the sound they heard was the impact of the bullet on the skull, they would not have heard that on the earlier shots. If the sound was the shock wave of the bullet, each bullet had a different trajectory so it is plausible that they could have only heard a distinct double sound for the third shot based on where they were standing. Another plausible explanation is that they heard a double sound for the earlier shots and simply did not remember it. I lean toward the third explanation. Witnesses just aren't very good at perfectly remembering every detail of the things they saw and heard. Out brains are not equipped with DVRs. We tend to remember bits and pieces of events, not the entire event.

The following article explains the auditory issues much better than I can:

https://biologyinsights.com/gunshot-audio-muzzle-blast-shock-waves-and-health-impact/

If, as is suggested by the conscious head movements between Z-140 and Z-150 of everyone inside the limo except Greer, Oswald's first, missing-everything shot was at "Z-124" (half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133), and if he was standing during said shot (as is suggested by the Robert Hughes film), the muzzle of his short-rifle would have been inside the building when he fired it.

If that was the case, it would explain why several witnesses said the first shot sounded muffled compared to the second and the third.
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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1690 on: July 16, 2026, 01:23:44 AM »
If, as is suggested by the conscious head movements between Z-140 and Z-150 of everyone inside the limo except Greer, Oswald's first, missing-everything shot was at "Z-124" (half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133), and if he was standing during said shot (as is suggested by the Robert Hughes film), the muzzle of his short-rifle would have been inside the building when he fired it.

If that was the case, it would explain why several witnesses said the first shot sounded muffled compared to the second and the third.

I count 3 "ifs" in that scenario.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1691 on: July 16, 2026, 01:50:47 AM »
I count 3 "ifs" in that scenario.

So?

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1692 on: July 16, 2026, 04:36:07 PM »
So?

The fact that you have to put several "ifs" into your scenario means that nothing you are saying is an established fact. It's simply your guesses.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1693 on: July 16, 2026, 05:06:23 PM »
If, as is suggested by the conscious head movements between Z-140 and Z-150 of everyone inside the limo except Greer, Oswald's first, missing-everything shot was at "Z-124" (half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133), and if he was standing during said shot (as is suggested by the Robert Hughes film), the muzzle of his short-rifle would have been inside the building when he fired it.

If that was the case, it would explain why several witnesses said the first shot sounded muffled compared to the second and the third.

Craziest theory I ever heard.