The First Shot

[Andrew Mason]

You made the statement of overwhelming evidence now it is time to provide it. There is evidence of two shots. Just not three like you claimed. I am sure of you think back you will remember your claim of "overwhelming evidence of three shots." It was a big proclamation on your part.

I am not sure what you consider evidence.  132 witnesses saying that they heard three distinct shots is the evidence. There were 3 shells found.  Amos Euins looked up at the 6th floor window and saw the rifle fire the last two shots. Harold Norman heard three "bang, click"s.  He heard three shells hit the floor. Those who reported only two shots are 17 in number.  Hmmm. Let's see.... That is why the WC concluded there were exactly three shots.  You disagree with the 132, the three shells, the three bang,clicks.  You disagree with the many who recalled the same 1.....2..3 pattern to the shots.  But disagreement isn't enough. Disagreement with evidence does not provide evidence for a contrary view. If it were, you could say there is evidence of 6 shots or any number because there is "no evidence" of only three shots. There isn't.

It might be easier to admit you have absolutely no evidence at all of a third shot, unless an overactive imagination is considered evidence. Fairly safe to assume you never will produce any evidence of a third shot. Really weak to make an all encompassing claim and then pretend you did not.

I am not sure what universe you are in.  Is this a parallel universe where there were no shots and JFK was not assassinated?

A Mason:

"Since you think, despite the overwhelming evidence of 3 shots, that there were only two shots I would prefer to take advice on how to understand the shot sequence from the witnesses who were there."

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If you have a problem with the HSCA assessment of their own reports, how about proving that what they clearly stated and obviously believed was wrong. Remember every three shot statement has two shots in it. A very large number of eyewitnesses only reported two shots. The witnesses you mentioned Powers, Greer, Gayle Newman, Connally's all are two shot witnesses. Maybe you were unaware of this. Maybe post less a little less and do a little more research.

They are all three shot witnesses in this universe, which is the one I am operating in.  They all provided evidence of exactly three shots.

Just a side note but there can't be three shots without there having been at least two shots. As soon as you prove there was three shots you will have already proven two shots. It is starting to appear your claim is all bluster and no substance. Even the witnesses you cite don't support your narrative.

I don't quite grasp your logic. Perhaps it is the universe thing.

[Jack Nessan]

I am not sure what you consider evidence.  132 witnesses saying that they heard three distinct shots is the evidence. There were 3 shells found.  Amos Euins looked up at the 6th floor window and saw the rifle fire the last two shots. Harold Norman heard three "bang, click"s.  He heard three shells hit the floor. Those who reported only two shots are 17 in number.  Hmmm. Let's see.... That is why the WC concluded there were exactly three shots.  You disagree with the 132, the three shells, the three bang,clicks.  You disagree with the many who recalled the same 1.....2..3 pattern to the shots.  But disagreement isn't enough. Disagreement with evidence does not provide evidence for a contrary view. If it were, you could say there is evidence of 6 shots or any number because there is "no evidence" of only three shots. There isn't.
I am not sure what universe you are in.  Is this a parallel universe where there were no shots and JFK was not assassinated?
They are all three shot witnesses in this universe, which is the one I am operating in.  They all provided evidence of exactly three shots.
I don't quite grasp your logic. Perhaps it is the universe thing.

So to summarize your post there is no proof. Nothing new there.

It turns out overwhelming evidence is really no evidence at all, just your opinion. No evidence at all that there ever was a third shot. The video of the assassination only exhibits evidence of two shots. You have not proven otherwise or even created a question about the possible existence of a third shot. A shot at Z270+ is just a pipe dream. Belief in a third shot at all is just fantasy.


Again, and I cannot stress this enough, the report you believe to be overwhelming evidence was compiled by the HSCA who then dismissed it by stating the witnesses were influenced by the media into inflating the number of shots. The WC gave the same assessment of the witness statements.

The question of the possibility of there being a third shot totally relies on the statements of earwitnesses, influenced by the media, into inflating the number of shots. The large majority of eye witnesses stated there was just two shots.

The fact you cannot prove otherwise should be a clue, but with your history of promoting this nonsense, I am sure you will not come to reality.

[Bill Chapman]

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[Jack Nessan]

billchapman

Good for you Bill. You are the first person ever to agree with Andrew that there was a shot at Z270+. Good to be remembered for something.

[Bill Chapman]

Good for you Bill. You are the first person ever to agree with Andrew that there was a shot at Z270+. Good to be remembered for something.

Zero shots fired if Marina had let Oswald in from the cold


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[Jack Nessan]

Zero shots fired if Marina had let Oswald in from the cold


billchapman

They would have been looking for an apartment that day. The whole event revolved on such a simple thing.

[Bill Chapman]

They would have been looking for an apartment that day. The whole event revolved on such a simple thing.

Since when is the battle-of-the-sexes ever simple..