Infamy = Glory??

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Infamy = Glory??
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2020, 09:10:42 PM »
No reason to think so.

Yep, it appears that MDC wanted to be caught for his infamy and perceived glory. His motive was simply that.

On the other hand, it appears that LHO had more than infamy as motive. Political ideology and revolution were apparently his main goals.

Offline Larry Chambliss

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Re: Infamy = Glory??
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2020, 07:24:59 PM »
But could LHO have been a part of the Cuban ring/team? Acting in concert with those shooters?

Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Infamy = Glory??
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2020, 07:46:04 PM »
Yep, it appears that MDC wanted to be caught for his infamy and perceived glory. His motive was simply that.

On the other hand, it appears that LHO had more than infamy as motive. Political ideology and revolution were apparently his main goals.
He went to his rooming house - showing no interest at all along the way as to what happened to JFK - changed clothes, got his loaded revolver and took five extra bullets. He shot Tippit. Tried to shoot it out at the theatre.

He was trying to go down in a shootout but was stopped. After getting caught he wanted the communist lawyer John Abt to represent him. Abt was known for putting the government on trial and that's what he planned to do: plead a victim of capitalism. He said numerous times throughout his life that he hated the American political and economic systems. I think he didn't expect to survive - which is why he left his wedding ring and nearly all of his money with Marina - but having done so he would play the victim card.

So his motives were probably - given his makeup -  a mix of personal desire for fame, for notoriety and politics.

Or he was innocent and all of these people lied to frame him. People in the FBI and Dallas Police and CIA and waitresses and cab drivers and steamfitters and shoe salesmen and ticket takers and on and on and on.

Offline Duncan MacRae

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Infamy = Glory??
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2020, 03:01:22 AM »
He went to his rooming house - showing no interest at all along the way as to what happened to JFK - changed clothes, got his loaded revolver and took five extra bullets. He shot Tippit. Tried to shoot it out at the theatre.

Cool story, bro. Too bad there’s no evidence for it.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Infamy = Glory??
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2020, 05:25:35 AM »
Not everybody needs a motive to kill beyond just doing it for kicks. Some murderers have said they did it just for the hell of it

But nobody beats Richard Kuklinski in the 'cold-blooded' department


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Re: Infamy = Glory??
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2020, 04:21:19 PM »
No evidence at all - none - for Oswald shooting Tippit. That's the statement. Not that the evidence is mixed or inconclusive or not dispositive. But none at all.

This is exactly like the Trump supporters and voter fraud. The Oswald defenders are remarkably like the hardcore Trump defenders. It's a cultish thinking.

A good reminder of the 'Appeal to Rebellion' fallacy.
The Cult of Oswald writ large.
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