Ted Callaway & The 1:15 Shooting

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Ted Callaway & The 1:15 Shooting
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2020, 08:30:24 PM »
Except there were no time trials in the Tippit shooting..... Just a contrived narrative based on unreliable times given by DPD dispatchers.

Since we know Oswald was at his roominghouse just after 1 pm, there is no physical way for him to have been at 10th/Patton between 1.06 and 1.10 when - as I believe and a preponderance of evidence shows - Tippit was killed, which makes any witness "identification" questionable at best.


You talk the talk: Now walk the walk. Feel free to organize a similar trial using a tester the same age, weight, size and fitness as Oswald. Do you need another 57 years?
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Re: Ted Callaway & The 1:15 Shooting
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2020, 09:08:57 PM »
Did I not ask you to provide an earlier shooter?

Yes you did. Which is why I asked you to stop asking stupid questions.... You didn't understand that?


You talk the talk: Now walk the walk. Feel free to organize a similar trial using a tester the same age, weight, size and fitness as Oswald. Do you need another 57 years?

Have you ever been there? I seriously doubt it, going by the BS you write. I was there. Several times in fact and I did do the walk and all possible variations. It was years ago but things haven't changed since then. The distance between the roominghouse and 10th/Patton is still the same and impossible for anybody to walk in less than 10 minutes.

So, if Oswald was at the roominghouse just after 1 pm and Tippit was shot between 1.05 and 1.10 (which is what the credible corroborative evidence shows), Oswald couldn't have been the shooter and the witnesses were wrong. It's really very simple, but somehow I get the impression that you are struggling to comprehend this.

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Re: Ted Callaway & The 1:15 Shooting
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2020, 11:32:38 PM »
Yes you did. Which is why I asked you to stop asking stupid questions.... You didn't understand that?

Have you ever been there? I seriously doubt it, going by the BS you write. I was there. Several times in fact and I did do the walk and all possible variations. It was years ago but things haven't changed since then. The distance between the roominghouse and 10th/Patton is still the same and impossible for anybody to walk in less than 10 minutes.

So, if Oswald was at the roominghouse just after 1 pm and Tippit was shot between 1.05 and 1.10 (which is what the credible corroborative evidence shows), Oswald couldn't have been the shooter and the witnesses were wrong. It's really very simple, but somehow I get the impression that you are struggling to comprehend this.

You lot rely too much on single-witness reports. Oswald was ID'd as the gunman @Tippit by multiple witnesses.
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Re: Ted Callaway & The 1:15 Shooting
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2020, 12:41:34 AM »
You lot rely too much on single-witness reports. Oswald was ID'd as the gunman @Tippit by multiple witnesses.

You lot rely too much on single-witness reports.

What "single-witness" report would that be? Bowley corroborates Markham and Davenport & Methodist Hospital corroborate Bowley and Markham. Do you really need this to be explained to you?

Oswald was ID'd as the gunman @Tippit by multiple witnesses.

Dumbo... that's exactly the problem. Witness identifications are hardly ever accurate. When you've got 10 people watching an event, you will get 10 different accounts of what happened. That's the daily practice, yet in this case all of a sudden you have a multiple of "identifications". I have two D.A.'s and one judge in my family. They all agree that so many "identifications" would be serious cause for concern about procedures and the way line ups were conducted.

Even more so, when you consider. for example, that Scoggins "identified" Oswald in a line up, but the next day failed to identify him from a photo to the FBI.

You really need to get out more and talk to people who know. They will tell you that witness identifications are highly unreliable.  One of my brothers, who is a D.A. recently dismissed the prosecution of a man, who was identified by two witness. The only problem was that he man could prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he was on the other side of the country when the crime was committed. 

The bottom line is a simple one; if it was physically impossible for Oswald to have been at 10th/Patton when Tippit was killed, there is no other conclusion possible than that the witnesses were wrong
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Re: Ted Callaway & The 1:15 Shooting
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2020, 06:07:54 AM »
Incomprehensible Chapman thinks that all he has to do is name “Oswald” and his job is done.

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Re: Ted Callaway & The 1:15 Shooting
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2020, 08:09:31 AM »
You lot rely too much on single-witness reports.

What "single-witness" report would that be? Bowley corroborates Markham and Davenport & Methodist Hospital corroborate Bowley and Markham. Do you really need this to be explained to you?

Oswald was ID'd as the gunman @Tippit by multiple witnesses.

Dumbo... that's exactly the problem. Witness identifications are hardly ever accurate. When you've got 10 people watching an event, you will get 10 different accounts of what happened. That's the daily practice, yet in this case all of a sudden you have a multiple of "identifications". I have two D.A.'s and one judge in my family. They all agree that so many "identifications" would be serious cause for concern about procedures and the way line ups were conducted.

Even more so, when you consider. for example, that Scoggins "identified" Oswald in a line up, but the next day failed to identify him from a photo to the FBI.

You really need to get out more and talk to people who know. They will tell you that witness identifications are highly unreliable.  One of my brothers, who is a D.A. recently dismissed the prosecution of a man, who was identified by two witness. The only problem was that he man could prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he was on the other side of the country when the crime was committed. 

The bottom line is a simple one; if it was physically impossible for Oswald to have been at 10th/Patton when Tippit was killed, there is no other conclusion possible than that the witnesses were wrong

Single witness = Earlene Roberts estimated in/out times. You're the one claiming an earlier Tippit snuff time. The Perry/Mack Oak Cliff proof-of-concept time trial has Oswald arriving in time for the 1:15 later confrontation.

Multiple witnesses = No claim from me that they all saw him shoot the officer. They ID'd him as being either at or near the scene. And any one of them not being able to ID him from a photo depends on the angle and distance they saw him from as opposed to the photo they viewed.

And the well-known '10 witnesses/10 versions' is self-explanatory as seen in the @/near Tippit death scene.
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Re: Ted Callaway & The 1:15 Shooting
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2020, 09:04:08 AM »
Incomprehensible Chapman thinks that all he has to do is name “Oswald” and his job is done.

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