Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Paul May]

   The above is your Confirming what I keep telling You Guys.  FOX News is far from being a Bastion of Conservatism.

Conservatism was always about fiscal responsibility and family values. You believe that’s what Trump represents?

[Paul May]

Storing, it’s Friday @ 5:17 PM. Barber college is out for the weekend. Answer my question.

[Paul May]

A Dam Breaks As Whites Abandon the GOP

Joe Biden/Flickr

There are a few odd but interesting things in Nate Cohn’s analysis of recent polls. For example, Joe Biden is now close to erasing the Republicans’ traditional advantage with white voters, but he’s underperforming with Black and Hispanic people compared to Hillary Clinton. While it’s been widely reported that Biden is winning with voters over 65, ordinarily the GOP’s strongest demographic, he actually hasn’t made any new ground with them since May. His recent gains are coming from improvement with younger voters.

This last point doesn’t surprise me and I predicted that young supporters of Bernie Sanders would get over their hurt feelings well before November. They are still more reluctant than older voters to give Biden positive favorable numbers, but that should also continue to improve. As for the over 65 crowd, it could be that Biden just maxed out. If I have a possible explanation for why Biden isn’t doing as well with minorities, it might be that polls show they simply aren’t as engaged or “paying attention” at the same rate as white people. As Election Day nears, everyone will be engaged, and it’s likely that undecided Black and Hispanic people will solidify behind the former vice-president.

What appears to be the most consequential change is Republicans’ dwindling advantage with white voters. As Cohn points out, this could lead to previously unimaginable losses for the GOP in congressional and Senate races. It could turn states like Texas, Kansas, and Alaska blue. But I also think it’s part of the reason we’re seeing a mood change on white supremacy in general. It helps explain why Confederate statues are coming down and Congress just passed a defense spending bill mandating that Confederate names are removed from military bases and ships. It helps explain why police unions are suddenly on the defensive against demands for reform. And, I think, it also behind a lot of folks feeling that they’re being “canceled.”

David Brooks is whining in the New York Times that people like Andrew Sullivan are suddenly unemployable, but this isn’t an example of the left suddenly becoming intolerant of diverse viewpoints. That’s like arguing that police chokeholds are being banned because the left suddenly discovered that they kill people. What actually happened is that public opinion finally tipped in the left’s direction, and a practice that was formerly tolerated because white people supported it, is no longer tolerated because they changed their mind. The same can be said for publishing people who argue for the inherent superiority of whites. The same can be said for naming your sports team the “Redskins” or having a racist mascot like the Cleveland Indians’ Chief Wahoo.

These things were “normal” and accepted only so long as whites accepted them in large numbers. Trump’s excesses have jolted enough white people to not only lose him support, but to lose support for many of the structurally racist things that have gone unexamined outside of leftist circles.

The change can manifest in simple ways, like people losing jobs they previously would have kept after saying or doing racist things. But the overall impact is complex and hard to predict. What we’re seeing is a lot of people who were previously safe and comfortable now getting called out for holding certain beliefs. It’s not a surprise that they howl like a scalded cat when they suddenly get burned.

This change in public opinion is going to reshape the country. The base and sports name changes are a precursor for the political realignment that’s coming in the election. Once political power resides on the left, we’ll see more transformation, and a lot more howling.

[John Tonkovich]

Well, 148,000 dead in USA.

So, 150,000 by August is looking like..optimism?

And 200,000 by Election day is suddenly looking quite..possible? Especially if schools open?

What say ye, Mr. Crow?

Aside: Mr May, David Brooks speaks of the loss of "heterodox " voices. Silencing of conservative voices. Cancel culture.
Oddly, he continues to be paid quite handsomely to bloviate on the pages of...The New York Times? Please, let me be "silenced" in such a way. 

[Paul May]

Well, 148,000 dead in USA.

So, 150,000 by August is looking like..optimism?

And 200,000 by Election day is suddenly looking quite..possible? Especially if schools open?

What say ye, Mr. Crow?

Aside: Mr May, David Brooks speaks of the loss of "heterodox " voices. Silencing of conservative voices. Cancel culture.
Oddly, he continues to be paid quite handsomely to bloviate on the pages of...The New York Times? Please, let me be "silenced" in such a way. 

John, I enjoy reading David Brooks. He’s an entertaining writer. He should write for The Onion. He was a liberal, then a conservative, then a moderate. As I recall he supported HC in 2016 and is strongly against Trump in 2020. I’m not unlike Brooks. Liberal on some issues, conservative on others and moderate on most.

[Royell Storing]

   YAWN !

[Martin Weidmann]

   YAWN !

That's the most interesting contribution you have made to this forum in months!

Have you still not figured out that your time on this forum has already expired?  Nobody takes you serious anymore as you have lost all credibility. You are unable to debate any issue, to answer any question and/or behave in a normal manner. Your propaganda is tiresome and doesn't persuade anybody and, although you don't seem to comprehend this yourself, you actually ran out of anything of substance to say a long time ago.

Your pretence that you are someone of significance with access to inside information was funny for a while, but we all understood early on that your only purpose in life is mowing lawns and sitting in your basement watching television 24/7 so you can parrot whatever the lying extreme right wing media are telling you. You showed your true colors when you ran as hard as you could from accepting Paul's wager about something you have been calling "a sure win" for months.

You are not a conservative. You are an armchair extremist and and a very poor wannabe provocateur who, as you have recently shown us, does not have even a bit of confidence in any of the crap you spew on this forum.

Yawn, indeed.....You have gotten extremely boring, Mr Storing.