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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6342 on: July 09, 2023, 10:27:15 AM »
LOL. Every time the corrupt DOJ charges him with another bogus crime the money rolls in and his poll numbers skyrocket. The American public know that these are politically driven efforts like in some Soviet era system to undermine democracy.  The real insurrection. Trump is the only person in the last hundred years in America who broke the stranglehold that the establishment has on power.  He is the only person who could ever withstand six years of wild conspiracy theories peddled by the leftist media and corrupt political establishment.They are out to destroy him by any means. The ends justify the means.  Censorship, misinformation, and corruption.

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More pathetic disinformation from "Richard Smith".

Criminal Donald stole top secret classified documents, refused to give those documents back, illegally hid and moved those documents around his residence, and illegally shared them with people who didn't have a top secret security clearance. That is illegal.

Inciting an insurrection and trying to steal an election from the American people via a coup is also illegal.

Those are not "bogus crimes" or "conspiracy theories", as you falsely claim.   

The Majority of Americans know that Donnie is a criminal and says he should drop out of the race. 1/3 of Republicans don't even support Criminal Donald. So much for the "skyrocketing polls". LOL.

Donnie destroyed himself by being a brazen criminal and now he's headed to prison. 


Poll: Majority Says Trump Should Drop Out of Presidential Race

Nearly a third of Republicans say they plan to support another GOP candidate after Trump’s latest criminal indictment

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2023-06-16/poll-majority-says-trump-should-drop-out-of-presidential-race

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6343 on: July 09, 2023, 10:33:20 AM »
'An extraordinary danger': ex-GOP chair says Trump puts every citizen at risk



Donald Trump is a danger to every single American citizen because of the way he mishandles classified information, according to former New Hampshire Republican Party Chairwoman Jennifer Horn.

Horn, who previously wrote an op-ed excoriating her party for its loyalty to Trump, appeared on MSNBC on Saturday. The host was asking Horn about reports that Trump allegedly mishandled classified information while he was president, in addition to after he lost the 2020 election.

"Just how big of a threat, how dangerous that this country?" the host asked.

Horn replied:

"Well, it's an extraordinary danger," she said, adding that she thinks it's "really important that we're very direct and clear that Donald trump is dangerous."

"He's dangerous to -- he undermines the security of our nation, but he's dangerous to the safety of every individual American citizen," she added. "Every person who lives in this country is potentially the target of harm, because of how he handles these documents. Because of how he mishandles classified information."

She also had some choice words for those who didn't speak up at the time but are now writing books about Trump's inappropriate behavior.

"I have no respect for those folks. Because my question is, why didn't they say something in 2017?" Horn asked. "Why didn't they say something in 2020?"

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Jack Smith handed a new weapon after bombshell accusation Trump shared secret docs: legal expert



Reacting to a claim by a former Department of Homeland Security official that Donald Trump shared secret documents related to the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi with reporters, former U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade suggested special counsel Jack Smith has one more charge he can use to bolster his case against the former president under the Espionage Act.

Speaking with MSNBC host Katie Phang, McQuade was asked about the NBC report based on a book by Miles Taylor, a top aide to Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, about Trump's mishandling of documents that alarmed Trump's then-national security adviser John Bolton.

"NBC is releasing exclusive reporting about ex-Trump aide Miles Taylor in which Miles alleges in 2018, Trump's press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, described an incident with Trump displaying to reporters classified documents related to journalist Jamal Khashoggi's death."

"Do you think Jack Smith has already had a lead on this? I mean, we keep on hearing these things pop up here and there. We saw in the indictment about Bedminster and the writing of a book, and journalists being present, even a PAC person like Susie Wiles. I mean, is this the kind of stuff we think Jack Smith would have a bead on it already?"

"He might, Katie," the attorney replied. "It could be valuable as what you know is 404(b) evidence; that is evidence of the person's common scheme or plan."

"And so, even if he doesn't charge it, you can use that as evidence to show that Trump is very reckless when he handles classified information. So, every piece of evidence brings value," she added.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6344 on: July 10, 2023, 04:52:32 AM »
Newly unredacted passage in the Mar-a-Lago search warrant blows a hole in a key Trump defense: legal expert

According to former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance, a deep dive into the newly unredacted portions of the Mar-a-Lago search warrant that allowed the FBI to retrieve stolen government documents from Donald Trump's Florida resort reveals an passage that would pave the way for one of his key defenses to be shot down by prosecutors when it comes time to go to court.

On her Substack "Civil Discourse with Joyce Vance," she wrote that a passage that was previously blacked out made a key assertion about Trump's knowledge about the documents he was hoarding.

As she explained, at the bottom of paragraph 58 she uncovered some "interesting information."

According to the warrant, "Multiple documents also contained what appears to be FPOTUS’s handwritten notes.”

"This means Trump won’t be able to claim he never saw the documents—at best he could maintain the notes were written while he was in office," she explained. "But if he resorts to that argument, he still has to explain how the documents ended up at Mar-a-Lago after they were in his hands."

She added the caveat, "All in all, it’s not a lot of new information, but we’re seeing the depth in the government’s case and learning more about its strength. Perhaps most importantly, the release of these interesting pieces of information underscores just how much more there is that we don’t know."

"With the former president’s team beginning to get access to discovery, he’s in the process of learning just how strong it is. That may explain why we see him acting out even more than usual on social media," she added.

You can read more here: https://joycevance.substack.com/p/newly-unredacted-parts-of-the-mar

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6345 on: July 10, 2023, 09:24:52 AM »
Judge denies Justice Department request to block Trump deposition in lawsuits by ex-FBI officials

Lawyers for Peter Strzok want to depose Trump in hope of finding out whether he met with and directly pressured FBI and Justice Department officials to terminate their client.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-denies-request-block-trump-deposition-strzok-page-lawsuits-rcna92985


Legal expert predicts Trump's upcoming deposition could be difficult: 'Lawyers have all day'



Former FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page have filed lawsuits against the U.S government after being targeted by then-President Donald Trump. It was reported last week that the Justice Department couldn't block the testimony of Trump, despite their best efforts.

Speaking about it on Sunday, former federal prosecutor Barb McQuade, co-host of the "Sisters in Law" podcast, explained that probably the worst ruling for the DOJ because Trump has a tendency to ramble about anything and everything.

Political analyst Jonathan Alter cited the recent report that Trump was trying to get the IRS to investigate Strzok and Page, which is illegal.

"It is another example of him using the powers of the presidency to strike out his perceived enemies," explained NBC's national security editor David Rohde. "Siccing the IRS on people who you dislike or suspect is what Richard Nixon did. It was made illegal because the federal government, whether the IRS, Justice Department, or FBI should not be used to punish the president's perceived enemy or to protect his friend. This is the same pattern he has talked about if he wins reelection taking tighter control of the Justice Department and the FBI and pulling special counsel to look at his enemies."

These are all things that lawyers could ask Trump about in the lawsuit from the two FBI agents.

"I imagine that is a motive lawyers would want to ask him about," McQuade said. "It is dangerous ground for him to be in a deposition. To the extent that he has damaging information, he is obligated to share it truthfully. If he fails to share it truthfully, he could be in trouble for perjury. He has often had difficulty answering questions in a straightforward matter. His method of speaking has been described by former FBI director James Comey as 'word salad.' But in a deposition, you can't get away with that. Lawyers have all day. There is no worry about whether the viewers will get bored watching. They will ask all day, pin him down and demand he answer the question. It is a peerless situation for him to be in to answer these questions under oath."

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Jack Smith might want to chat with former Homeland Security aide after bombshell book leak: ex-prosecutor



A leak from former top Homeland Security aide Miles Taylor's new book "Blowback" revealed Donald Trump was flashing classified information around to reporters. Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner explained on Sunday that a key piece of this information can be used by special counsel Jack Smith in the classified document scandal.

Speaking to MSNBC's Yasmin Vossoughian, Kirschner explained that this isn't directly related to the classified documents that Donald Trump took upon leaving the White House. What there does appear to be, he explained, is a lot of "factual overlap."

"However, what it does is it shows Donald Trump's pattern or practice of completely disregarding the sort of sanctity of classified information and classified documents," said Kirschner. "I'm sure Jack Smith will be keenly interested in it. I would certainly subpoena Miles Taylor and put him before the grand jury to testify about what he knows, what he saw, and what he heard. Hearsay is admissible before the grand jury about Donald Trump's potential mishandling of classified information while president. Now, that's not to say that evidence will necessarily be admissible at Donald Trump's future trial in federal court in Florida. But it might be that's the kind of issue that motions will be filed about. It'll be litigated, and the judge would have to make the decision. Is this relevant in the classified documents prosecution?"

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6346 on: July 10, 2023, 09:40:14 AM »
Fulton County is working to seat a new grand jury - and it could decide whether Trump interfered in Georgia's 2020 election

District Attorney Fani Willis previously said July 17 is the earliest a Fulton County grand jury could hear evidence related to the Trump investigation.



FULTON COUNTY, Ga. — Fulton County Superior Court Grand Jury selection will begin Tuesday, according to the sheriff's office, signaling that Georgia's case surrounding former President Donald Trump could move into its next phase.

The next seated grand jury could be the one to potentially indict Trump of criminal charges over possibly interfering with Georgia's 2020 election.

Though the grand jury could hear several Fulton County cases, District Attorney Fani Willis recently said that she plans to present evidence against Trump and his allies during the fourth term of Fulton County's Superior Court, which runs from July 11 to Sept. 1. Grand jury selection aligns with her presented timeline, signaling this summer would be crucial in the investigation of the former president and his allies.

Timeline for potential Trump indictment

"That investigation is ongoing, but the timeline that I've set out for the American people having an answer is Sept. 1," Willis previously said to 11Alive. "The American people will have the answer they want by Sept. 1."

This isn't the only deadline Willis has set for herself.

She also previously told 11Alive that July 17 is the earliest a Fulton County grand jury could hear evidence related to the Trump investigation. She also blocked off much of August for her and her team, asking judges not to schedule trials or in-person hearings from Aug. 7 to Aug. 14.

How we got here


Fulton County Superior Court judges voted in January 2022 to impanel the special purpose grand jury at Willis' request.

Its goal was to investigate alleged violations of state law committed by Trump and his allies in the aftermath of the 2020 presidential election as they worked to change the outcome.

The jury began its work in May 2022 and it was dissolved in January 2023 after completing its final report.

For more than a year, the jury listened to testimony and evidence from various sources including Georgia's Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger who was on the receiving end of a now infamous phone call. Former Trump attorney Rudy Guiliani and U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham were also summoned.

Beyond Fulton County, Trump faces other charges

Trump was recently indicted on 37 federal charges in relation to his handling of classified documents at his Florida estate. Trump's first indictment came in New York in March on 34 felony charges of falsifying business records.

Willis said the other criminal cases against the former president have no current impact on her investigation.



https://www.11alive.com/article/news/local/fulton-county-grand-jury-selection/85-b434ad83-292a-4cf6-812b-5306978d1609



Trump’s ‘smoking gun’ tape stokes prison fears: Co-conspirator finally gets lawyer for arraignment

Donald Trump’s indicted co-conspirator returns to court. Walt Nauta, who was charged alongside Trump in the classified documents case, pleaded not guilty to all charges. MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber breaks down Nauta's arraignment and reports on the newly-unsealed evidence in the case.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6347 on: July 10, 2023, 10:16:11 PM »
Revealed: Mueller prosecutor suspects Trump's FBI targeted his security clearance during Russia probe

Amid conversations about Donald Trump's weaponization of the Justice Department while he was in office, a former senior prosecutor on Robert Mueller's team, Andrew Weissmann, revealed that he believe he was targeted.

Last week, former chief of staff Gen. John Kelly told an allied ex-Trump staffer that the then-president wanted to use the IRS to target the two FBI agents, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, that were on Mueller's team.

They were ultimately removed and now are suing the government.

While he made clear that he doesn't compare his experience to the severity and seriousness of what former FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page experienced, Weissmann described something he said he found suspicious at the time

"Let me actually ask you a two-part question because I know you shared with our producers that Trump's efforts to weaponize the federal government against anyone that was investigating Russia reached you," MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace said to Weissmann Monday.

Weissmann explained that reading the recent reporting about Trump using the power of the FBI and Justice Department against his perceived foes made him remember his experience and the questions he had.

"There are sort of two ways in which there are improper uses of the Justice Department," he began. "There is the one that you talked about, which is this idea of siccing the IRS on political enemies, which is also a criminal offense, if can be proved. The other thing that is — that was in the notes that John Kelly had was this idea of pulling security clearances. This is something that got a lot of attention in the middle of 2018. John Brennan was the victim of that. There was discussion of many other people, including Lisa Page and Pete Strzok and many others."

He explained it struck close to home because it happened to him.

"While I was serving on Director Mueller's team, and it was in the middle of August, the exact time that the news was breaking, I was subjected to a really unusual re-up of my clearance," Weissmann continued. "The way clearances work is they last for five years. At the end of five years, usually, six or seven, when the FBI gets around to it, there's a re-up of your security clearance. Well, in the middle of the Mueller investigation, only two to three years into my clearance — and it's way before it was up — I was subjected to a re-examination by the FBI, which I remember at the time being incredibly suspicious."

When he saw the report about Kelly's notes and the way Trump wanted to target people, it "seemed pretty clear how to connect those dots in terms of why I was subjected to that," he said.

Republicans in Congress claim that it was President Joe Biden that has weaponized the government against his so-called foes. As more information becomes available, questions are being raised about Trump's congressional allies distracting from actual weaponization in the administration before.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6348 on: July 11, 2023, 05:17:43 AM »
Trump just went to Nevada and called the state “disgraceful.” This is not a guy who’s trying to win anything or even running for anything. He’s just going through the motions so he can bring in donations to his “campaign” and use it to pay for his defense for his criminal trials.

Trump To Nevada: Your State 'Is Disgraceful'
Trump lost Nevada twice but claims he won both times in a landslide
https://crooksandliars.com/2023/07/trump-nevada-your-state-disgraceful