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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6209 on: June 09, 2023, 12:45:57 AM »
Donald Trump wrote on his failed social media site that he has been indicted by the DOJ. News reports are surfacing it is a 7 count indictment! 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/live-blog/live-updates-trump-classified-documents-florida-grand-jury-rcna88233#rcrd13829

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Re: Donald Trump Indicted!
« Reply #6210 on: June 09, 2023, 12:48:19 AM »
Criminal Donald has been indicted AGAIN!

Trump says on Truth Social he's been indicted in classified docs probe
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-truth-social-indicted-classified-docs-probe-rcna79343

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6211 on: June 09, 2023, 12:53:32 AM »
Donald Trump indicted for second time, in classified documents investigation: Sources
https://abcnews.go.com/US/donald-trump-indicted-time-sources/story?id=99408228

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6212 on: June 09, 2023, 01:11:47 AM »
Donald Trump had a berserk meltdown on his social media site as he was informed that he's been indicted by the DOJ and has been ordered to surrender.

Donald Trump has been criminally indicted by the DOJ, and has been ordered to surrender himself early next week. This news was broken, oddly enough, by Donald Trump himself on a social media post. Now multiple major news outlets are confirming that Trump has indeed been indicted. Trump isn’t taking the news well.

Trump is throwing a fit on social media, declaring that “I have been summoned to appear at the Federal Courthouse in Miami on Tuesday, at 3 PM” and whining that “I never thought it possible that such a thing could happen.” Yeah whatever. Blah blah blah.

So what are the charges? The New York Times says there are seven felony counts, but doesn’t know what they are yet. Trump was previously hit with thirty-four felony counts in Manhattan. In this DOJ case, there is every reason to expect that at least one of them will be espionage, one of the most serious criminal charges on the books. Donald Trump insisting that “I AM AN INNOCENT MAN!” Yeah, well, tell it to the judge and jury Donnie. 

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Re: Donald Trump Indicted!
« Reply #6213 on: June 09, 2023, 01:13:03 AM »

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6214 on: June 09, 2023, 04:05:45 AM »
The DOJ’s seven criminal charges against Donald Trump have been revealed, and let’s just say that they’re as ugly as we were expecting. There’s the “willful retention of documents” under the Espionage Act, as expected. There’s also making “false statements” to investigators, which is a great tack-on charge with very high odds of conviction, in case the main charge falls through. Then there’s this charge: “conspiracy to obstruct.”

By legal definition, a conspiracy involves two or more people. For Trump to be indicted for “conspiracy to obstruct,” it means that he and others are accused of participating in this criminal conspiracy. In other words, there’s another shoe dropping here. This could mean that Trump’s underlings are also being indicted for “conspiracy to obstruct.” Or it could mean that those who have cut cooperation deals or immunity deals are the co-conspirators. But there’s clearly more coming here.

In any case, remember that today’s charges are just in the DOJ classified documents case. We’re still waiting to see what charges the DOJ brings against Donald Trump in Jack Smith’s separate January 6th probe, wire fraud, and so on. This is just the beginning.

What’s important is that today’s charges start the clock for Donald Trump’s federal criminal trial (or his first federal criminal trial, if it doesn’t all get folded into one trial). Jack Smith and the DOJ no doubt chose this timing on purpose, to make sure they had plenty of time to get the trial, conviction, and sentencing out of the way, well before the 2024 election. But let’s remember that more DOJ charges against Trump are almost surely coming down the road.

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Re: Donald Trump Indicted!
« Reply #6215 on: June 09, 2023, 04:23:25 AM »
When it was reported that the DOJ criminally indicted Donald Trump on “at least” seven felony charges including the Espionage Act and obstruction, the question was whether the rabbit hole went any deeper. Now it turns out the DOJ may have also indicted Trump for witness tampering.

Donald Trump’s attorney Jim Trusty appeared on CNN and revealed that Trump has also been charged under 18 USC 1512 which is the criminal code for witness tampering. He went on to hypothesize that one of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago aides may have flipped.

Of course we’ll have to wait until Trump’s arraignment on Tuesday to know the full charges, unless the DOJ unseals it first. But this just keeps getting worse for Trump by the hour.