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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4165 on: September 20, 2021, 02:55:35 PM »
Someone watched Faux Propaganda to get their talking points.  :D   

There is no "leftist media" in America.

How would you know unless you watched Fox News?  LOL.  You must be so disappointed that there was no violence after all the endless leftist hype about this "event."  And how about that great, big beautiful wall they put up around the Capitol at tax payer expense to protect it from a few American citizens?  I guess the Dems finally understand that walls can keep people out.  Now where could we really use one? There will soon be nothing left to distract from the numerous disasters unfolding under Biden's weak and incompetent administration.  All he ever had was anti-Trump rhetoric about the pandemic and Jan. 6.  And the pandemic has blown up in his face with a 300% increase in case despite being gifted the vaccine by Trump from day one of his presidency.  And he still bungled it.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4166 on: September 20, 2021, 11:25:32 PM »
How would you know unless you watched Fox News?  LOL.  You must be so disappointed that there was no violence after all the endless leftist hype about this "event."  And how about that great, big beautiful wall they put up around the Capitol at tax payer expense to protect it from a few American citizens?  I guess the Dems finally understand that walls can keep people out.  Now where could we really use one? There will soon be nothing left to distract from the numerous disasters unfolding under Biden's weak and incompetent administration.  All he ever had was anti-Trump rhetoric about the pandemic and Jan. 6.  And the pandemic has blown up in his face with a 300% increase in case despite being gifted the vaccine by Trump from day one of his presidency.  And he still bungled it.

What this shows is Criminal Donald conrinues to lose support amongst his own rabid base. Maga was hyping this event and it turned out to be a total bust.

President Biden had this pandemic under control until right wingers refused to get vaccinated and now they are killing each other off.   

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4167 on: September 20, 2021, 11:33:21 PM »
Former White House lawyer points out 30-year-old roadmap for investigating and indicting Trump

On Monday, writing for MSNBC, former George W. Bush White House Counsel Richard Painter called on the Justice Department to appoint a new special counsel to look into the misconduct of former President Donald Trump.

Trump and his allies, wrote Painter, need to face accountability for a broad range of allegations, including trying to sabotage the USPS to undermine the election and trying to weaponize the Justice Department to stage a coup. And there is already a roadmap to doing so, wrote Painter — laid out by none other than current President Joe Biden when he was a U.S. senator 30 years ago.

"More than 30 years ago, then-Sen. Joe Biden argued persuasively that special prosecutors are needed when high-ranking officials shatter the public's faith in the government's integrity," wrote Painter. "He's president now, and his attorney general, Merrick Garland, has the authority to appoint a special counsel to investigate and prosecute allegations of crimes by Trump and others, including violations of the political coercion statute. Garland not only has that authority, but he also has the obligation. If crimes were committed, even by the former president himself, then they should be prosecuted."

"Biden need only read his own law review article to figure out what to do about it," concluded Painter. "Garland should appoint a special counsel who can make decisions independent of political considerations, whether for or against Trump. That prosecutor should follow the facts and the law wherever they might lead, focused single-mindedly on that concept fundamental to representative democracy: No person is above the law."

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/trump-s-coercion-role-jan-6-warrant-special-prosecutor-n1279595


Allen Weisselberg's lawyers 'strongly believe' more indictments are coming in Trump Org case: CNN

CNN reporter Kara Scannell revealed on Monday that the attorneys representing longtime Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg don't think he's the last person at the organization who will face criminal charges.

While talking about Weisselberg's Monday court appearance, Scannell broke down some surprising moments that had potential implications for former President Donald Trump.

"One of his lawyers spoke up and he said he strongly believes indictments are coming in this case," she explained. "He didn't say who, or how many, or why he believed it, but we have been reporting that the [Manhattan District Attorney's Office] has been investigating another top Trump Organization official -- Matthew Calamari, he's the chief operating officer."

Weisselberg was first indicted this past July on 15 charges that included four counts of criminal tax fraud and one count of grand larceny.

The longtime Trump Organization CFO has pleaded not guilty to all charges.

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More than 3 million new docs found in co-conspirator's basement by Trump tax fraud investigators: report

An attorney for Allen Weisselberg, the chief financial officer of the Trump Organization, said in court Monday that he believes more indictments are coming in the case.

"We have strong reason to believe there could be other indictments coming," attorney Bryan Skarlatos said at a pre-trial hearing in New York State Supreme Court, according to a report from CNN.

Asked about the pending indictments, CNN's Kara Scannell said: "There was no further elaboration on that point, and we don't know exactly who could be charged or how many people."

Scannell added that Skarlatos asked the judge for more time to deal with discovery in the case, as he receives more evidence from prosecutors.

"He said he just received today a manilla envelope that he held up in court with a bulge in it," Scannell reported. "And he said within that, he was told there were 3 million documents. He said these documents were found in a co-conspirator's basement, and they were tax documents. So certainly a lot more information getting transferred from prosecutors to the defense."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4168 on: September 21, 2021, 01:59:07 AM »
Everywhere you look these Republican criminals are conspiring or are involved with the Russians.

Two longtime Republican operatives indicted -- and there's a Russia connection




Reuters legal reporter Jan Wolfe revealed Monday evening that two Republican Party operatives have been indicted after helping Russians donate to political campaigns in 2016.

The Justice Department revealed in a statement that Kentucky's Jesse Benton and Florida's Roy Douglas "Doug" Wead were "charged with one count of conspiracy to solicit and cause an illegal campaign contribution by a foreign national, effect a conduit contribution, and cause false records to be filed with the FEC, one count of contribution by a foreign national, one count of contribution in the name of another and three counts of making false entries in an official record."

Benton was just pardoned by former President Donald Trump for a bribery scandal while working for Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) in Iowa in 2012. In that scheme, Benton and colleague John Tate bribed state officials to change their endorsements to Paul for the Iowa Caucus.

After being pardoned for that, Benton is now being indicted again along with Wead for arranging for a Russian National who wanted to donate to a 2016 presidential campaign to be able to meet with the candidate.

Jan Wolfe: Developing: Two longtime GOP operatives have been indicted. They allegedly helped a Russian make a campaign contribution to Trump in 2016.

One of the defendants, Jesse Benton, managed campaigns for Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell. He got a Trump pardon (for an unrelated scheme).





"Benton reached out to individuals at Political Committee B, the national party committee for Political Candidate 1's political party," the indictment explains. "He then arranged for Foreign National 1 to attend a political fundraising event and get a photograph with Political Candidate 1, in exchange for a political contribution to Political Committee C, a joint fundraising committee comprised of the campaign committee for Political Candidate 1, Political Committee B, and related state committees. Foreign National 1 ultimately wired $100,000 to Company A, a political consulting firm owned by Benton."

He then tried to disguise the wire transfer by labeling it "consulting services" and crafted a "cover story."

Wead went to the fundraiser with the foreign national Sept. 22, 2016 with a translator (Foreign National 2). They all three had their photos taken with the candidate.

"Following the event, Benton repeatedly represented to a consultant working for Political Committee B and Political Committee C that he had already sent the promised contribution for the event, but in actuality he delayed sending the contribution," said the DOJ. "Benton ultimately filled out a contributor form, indicated that he was the contributor, and used a personal credit card to make a $25,000 contribution. Benton retained the remaining $75,000 of Foreign National 1's money. Because Benton falsely claimed to have given the contribution himself, three different political committees unwittingly filed reports with the FEC that inaccurately reported Benton, rather than Foreign National 1, as the source of the funds."

Read the full report at the DOJ.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/political-operatives-indicted-alleged-scheme-involving-illegal-campaign-contribution-2016

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4169 on: September 21, 2021, 10:50:08 PM »
The only people "hyping" this event were the leftist media.  They were hysterically promoting another fake news story.  It was a fraud.  They looked like fools with ten reporters for every peaceful protestor.  The highest percentage of unvaccinated people are minorities and young people.  Very few of whom are Trump supporters.  The surge in cases has been compounded by distributing hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated illegal immigrants throughout the south.  But keep entertaining your fantasy and relishing in the death of "Trump" supporters.  It takes a very sick person to celebrate the deaths of people based on their political opinions.  In the past, you have even posted pictures of average citizens who died from the virus and mocked them.  Sick and disgusting.

There is no "leftist media".

Nice false narrative. This "event" was hyped by the maga cult and they are the ones who looked like fools. There are no illegals "distributed through the South" that's your Faux Propaganda fantasy you watch.

Right wing Trump supporters are the ones who refuse to get vaccinated and are the ones dying. I already posted the CDC chart in the COVID thread.

Also, stop with the false personal attacks.

America’s Republicans Are Killing Their Voters
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/vaccination-reduced-mortality-evidence-republicans-by-jeffrey-frankel-2021-07     

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4170 on: September 21, 2021, 10:52:53 PM »
Eric Trump's lawyer drops him as client in Trump Org fraud suit

On Tuesday, Forbes reported that Eric Trump's attorney representing him in New York State's civil fraud suit against the Trump family business has resigned.

"Marc Mukasey of Mukasey Frenchman LLP informed a New York state Supreme Court judge in Manhattan that he was withdrawing from the case on Sept. 14," reported Zach Everson. "The move comes one day after a judge's order to seal a stipulation between the parties was filed. Before that agreement, the docket shows no activity in this case since January. It's not clear if there's any connection between the agreement and Mukasey's departure."

"Mukasey declined to comment on the record for this story," said the report. "He has represented Eric Trump in the case since it was filed in August 2020. Eric and representatives from the Trump Organization have not replied to inquiries."

According to the report, Mukasey has also represented a number of clients in other high-profile cases, including Eddie Gallagher, an accused war criminal pardoned by former President Donald Trump.

Eric Trump has denied all wrongdoing in the case, which alleges the Trump Organization improperly inflated the value of assets to get more favorable loans. He has accused New York Attorney General Letitia James of "prosecutorial misconduct."

In addition to the civil suit, the Trump Organization and its longtime CFO Allen Weisselberg face criminal fraud charges for allegedly paying out non-monetary benefits to top officials, including car leases and rent-free housing in Trump properties, without paying taxes on the value of those benefits.

https://www.rawstory.com/eric-trump-tax-fraud/

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« Reply #4171 on: September 21, 2021, 11:06:01 PM »
Trump campaign knew voter fraud claims were baseless soon after election loss, says report

Newly released court documents show that Donald Trump’s 2020 presidential campaign knew within weeks of the election that accusations against Dominion Voting Systems were false.

The New York Times reports:

Two weeks after the 2020 election, a team of lawyers closely allied with Donald J. Trump held a widely watched news conference at the Republican Party’s headquarters in Washington. At the event, they laid out a bizarre conspiracy theory claiming that a voting machine company had worked with an election software firm, the financier George Soros and Venezuela to steal the presidential contest from Mr. Trump.

But there was a problem for the Trump team, according to court documents released on Monday evening.

By the time the news conference occurred on Nov. 19, Mr. Trump’s campaign had already prepared an internal memo on many of the outlandish claims about the company, Dominion Voting Systems, and the separate software company, Smartmatic. The memo had determined that those allegations were untrue.

Trump has continued to pedal lies about fraud in the 2020 election up until now, almost a year after ballots were cast.

The former president has also extended those baseless claims to more recent elections, claiming they were also tainted by widespread fraud. Trump has, of course, presented absolutely no evidence to support those outlandish allegations.


Memo shows Trump lawyer's six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election

Washington (CNN)A conservative lawyer working with then-President Donald Trump's legal team tried to convince then-Vice President Mike Pence that he could overturn the election results on January 6 when Congress counted the Electoral College votes by throwing out electors from seven states, according to the new book "Peril" from Washington Post journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa.

The scheme put forward by controversial lawyer John Eastman was outlined in a two-page memo obtained by the authors for "Peril," and which was subsequently obtained by CNN. The memo, which has not previously been made public, provides new detail showing how Trump and his team tried to persuade Pence to subvert the Constitution and throw out the election results on January 6.

The effort to sway Pence was just one of several behind-the-scenes attempts that Trump's team undertook ahead of January 6 in a desperate bid to overturn the 2020 election loss, after dozens of lawsuits were thrown out of the courts. "Peril," which will be released Tuesday, details how Eastman's memo was sent to GOP Sen. Mike Lee of Utah and how Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani tried to convince fellow Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina of election fraud. But both Lee and Graham scoffed at the arguments and found they had no merit.

"You might as well make your case to Queen Elizabeth II. Congress can't do this. You're wasting your time," Lee said to Trump's lawyers trying to overturn the results in Georgia, according to the book.

The Eastman memo laid out a six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election for Trump, which included throwing out the results in seven states because they allegedly had competing electors. In fact, no state had actually put forward an alternate slate of electors -- there were merely Trump allies claiming without any authority to be electors.

Under Eastman's scheme, Pence would have declared Trump the winner with more Electoral College votes after the seven states were thrown out, at 232 votes to 222. Anticipating "howls" from Democrats protesting the overturning of the election, the memo proposes, Pence would instead say that no candidate had reached 270 votes in the Electoral College. That would throw the election to the House of Representatives, where each state would get one vote. Since Republicans controlled 26 state delegations, a majority could vote for Trump to win the election.

The plan was first proposed to Pence when Eastman was with Trump in the Oval Office on January 4, during one of Trump's attempts to convince Pence that he had the authority to stop the certification of the election.

"You really need to listen to John. He's a respected constitutional scholar. Hear him out," Trump said to Pence at that meeting, Woodward and Costa write in "Peril."

In the memo, Eastman went so far as to suggest Pence should take action without warning.

"The main thing here is that Pence should do this without asking for permission -- either from a vote of the joint session or from the Court," Eastman wrote. "The fact is that the Constitution assigns this power to the Vice President as the ultimate arbiter. We should take all of our actions with that in mind."

In the end, Pence didn't go along with Eastman's scheme, concluding that the Constitution did not give him any power beyond counting the Electoral College votes. He did his own consultations before January 6, according to the book, reaching out to former Vice President Dan Quayle and the Senate parliamentarian, who were both clear in telling him he had no authority beyond counting the votes.

When Pence refused to intervene, Trump turned on his vice president, attacking him on Twitter even as the insurrection at the Capitol was unfolding on January 6.

The memo could be of interest to the House select committee now investigating the January 6 attack on the Capitol, which recently requested documents from the National Archives that specifically included communications involving Eastman.

"It shows intent, a sophisticated plan, a blueprint to illegally and unconstitutionally overturn and steal the election" by Trump and his team based on false and misleading information and legal arguments, a source familiar with the investigation told CNN.

'Lee's head was spinning'

Eastman spoke at the January 6 rally that preceded the attack on the Capitol. He retired from his position as a professor at Chapman University a week after January 6, which occurred amid protests from faculty at the Southern California university over his participation in Trump's efforts to overturn the election.

Eastman told the Washington Post that his memo merely "explored all options that had been proposed." CNN has contacted Eastman for comment through the Claremont Institute, where he is a senior fellow.

As part of the efforts of Trump's team to convince Congress not to certify the election, the Eastman memo was given to Lee, one of the Senate's top Republican constitutional authorities. At the same time, Giuliani sent multiple memos to Graham trying to convince him that the claims of election fraud coming from Trump's team were legitimate.

The memos show how even some of Trump's closest allies balked at the measures Trump's team was taking behind the scenes to try to overturn his loss to Biden. But while Lee and Graham heard out the cases from Trump's lawyers, they soundly rejected their claims, Woodard and Costa write.

Lee was shocked by the claims the memo was making, since no state had considered, let alone put forward, any alternate slates of electors. "Lee's head was spinning," the authors write.

"No such procedure existed in the Constitution, any law or past practice. Eastman had apparently drawn it out of thin air."

Lee also dismissed the Trump team's arguments that it had a case to overturn the election results in Georgia, saying they had to be made in court.

'Third grade'

Woodward and Costa also obtained several memos Giuliani sent to Graham to try to convince him of election fraud in Georgia and other states. CNN has also obtained those memos.

The authors write that on January 2, Giuliani briefed Graham at the White House. Giuliani presented a statistical analysis arguing Biden's win was impossible, but Graham dismissed Giuliani's evidence as too abstract. "Give me some names. You need to put it in writing. You need to show me the evidence," Graham said, according to the book.

Giuliani then sent Graham several memos and affidavits claiming fraud. But when Graham's chief Judiciary Committee counsel Lee Holmes went over the claims, he found they were sloppy, overbearing and "added up to nothing," Woodward and Costa write. "Holmes reported to Graham that the data in the memos were a concoction, with a bullying tone and eighth grade writing."

"Third grade," Graham responded, according to the book. "I can get an affidavit tomorrow saying the world is flat."

Giuliani did not respond to a request for comment.

Trump has continued to push baseless claims that the election was stolen from him. Last week, he sent a new letter to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger claiming he should start the process of decertifying the 2020 election.

Criminal investigators in the state have been investigating Trump's efforts to overturn Georgia's 2020 election results, including an infamous call Trump made to Raffensperger in which Trump urged the secretary of state to "find" more than 11,000 votes that Trump needed to win.

Graham also made a phone call to Raffensperger, which is part of the Fulton County district attorney's probe. Graham has said his call was to understand the process of verifying signatures on mail-in ballots.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/politics/trump-pence-election-memo/index.html