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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1001 on: July 28, 2020, 06:24:30 PM »
RACIST to his core. No different than Storing.


Trump still refuses to admit he was wrong about the Central Park 5

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So far, this entire page is a well supported catalogue of Trump denial and Royell's parroting of Trump's denial.

Skim through it.... Trump denied he was redlining minority residential rental applicants as far back as in 1973.

Trump denied his father was even arrested in a 1927 KKK rally.

Trump denied DNA evidence and the confession of the actual attacker exonerated the five youths Trump had demonized and called for the execution of, before trial, in 1989.

Trump denied Charlottesville was an ugly, fascist show of strength, even lying about video evidence to the contrary, as the Washington Post fact checker documented above (in my last post) and here.:

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/08/very-fine-people-charlottesville-who-were-they-2/
May 8, 2020
Fact Checker
The ‘very fine people’ at Charlottesville: Who were they?

Claim: “I was talking about people that went because they felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee, a great general.”
Claimed by: Donald Trump

Fact check by Washington Post: Four Pinocchios


This fact check, and the video above, will set the record straight on who was in Charlottesville that weekend. We wanted to put this issue to rest before it emerged again in the presidential campaign.

The Facts.....

Trump was the most prominent denier that Obama, the POTUS at the time, and the first minority to hold that office was born in the U.S., intoning that Obama committed fraud and was actually a native Kenyan!
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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1002 on: July 28, 2020, 06:33:35 PM »
So far, this entire page is a well supported catalogue of Trump denial and Royell's parroting of Trump's denial.

Skim through it.... Trump denied he was redlining minority residential rental applicants as far back as in 1973.

Trump denied his father was even arrested in a 1927 KKK rally.

Trump denied DNA evidence and the confession of the actual attacker exonerated the five youths Trump had demonized and called for the execution of, before trial, in 1989.

Trump denied Charlottesville was an ugly, fascist show of strength, even lying about video evidence to the contrary, as the Washington Post fact checker documented above (in my last post) and here.:

Trump was the most prominent denier that Obama, the POTUS at the time, and the first minority to hold that office was born in the U.S., intoning that Obama committed fraud and was actually a native Kenyan!

Trump denies what he doesn’t understand which is virtually everything. Climate change. COVID-19, DNA evidence..  Anything science related, he hasn’t a clue. Throw in the American constitution and it’s the grand slam of ignorance, bigotry, racism, and conman.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1003 on: July 28, 2020, 06:53:03 PM »

  Lotta TRUMP HATE above, but No addressing that Doddering Old Racist "Fuzzy" Biden. This is Exactly Why they are NOW Racing to change the discussion to the VP Choice. Blacks are abandoning Racist Biden in droves. Eventually, those of You on the outside looking in will have access to this Real News. (Whenever your Fake News sources do so amidst Racist Biden taking on water)

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1004 on: July 28, 2020, 06:58:38 PM »
  Lotta TRUMP HATE above, but No addressing that Doddering Old Racist "Fuzzy" Biden. This is Exactly Why they are NOW Racing to change the discussion to the VP Choice. Blacks are abandoning Racist Biden in droves. Eventually, those of You on the outside looking in will have access to this Real News. (Whenever your Fake News sources do so amidst Racist Biden taking on water)
I'm still trying to understand the incorrect capitalization; did they not emphasize grammar at Trump University?
Did someone say "$25 million settlement "?

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1005 on: July 28, 2020, 07:04:57 PM »
Trump denies what he doesn’t understand which is virtually everything. Climate change. COVID-19, DNA evidence..  Anything science related, he hasn’t a clue. Throw in the American constitution and it’s the grand slam of ignorance, bigotry, racism, and conman.

Paul, if an honest discussion in this thread was possible, and so far, Trump supporters posting here have indicated they are incapable of facts supported discussion, I'd offer this well supported observation....

  Lotta TRUMP HATE above, but No addressing that Doddering Old Racist "Fuzzy" Biden. This is Exactly Why they are NOW Racing to change the discussion to the VP Choice. Blacks are abandoning Racist Biden in droves. Eventually, those of You on the outside looking in will have access to this Real News. (Whenever your Fake News sources do so amidst Racist Biden taking on water)

Ironically, Biden's strength is a sure sign Trump's MAGA effect has set the country back at least a dozen years, even if Trump is turned out of office, 98 days from now. So, Trumpkinism has the lasting effect of setting the U.S. back somewhere between 70 and 12 years!

In my last two posts, I wanted to make it crystal clear how absurd it is for Royell and Trump to project Trump's open, militant racism onto Joe Biden.

This article savages Biden's record and attempts to explain why his record is overlooked, especially by black voters.
Nostalgia for Obama and anticipating that Biden's right of center record will strengthen his appeal in the general election, more than any other democratic primary candidate could, explains how Biden got here.

Biden was not Obama's V.P. pick because Obama thought highly of him and his long political record, in fact, quite the opposite. Biden was chosen as bait intended to hook the highest number of former "Reagan Democrats", and perhaps some republicans with concerns about John McCain's health and his mistaken elevation of Sarah Palin.

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https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/joe-biden-record-on-busing-incarceration-racial-justice-democratic-primary-2020-explained.html
VISION 2020 MAR. 12, 2019
Will Black Voters Still Love Biden When They Remember Who He Was?
By Eric Levit
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Now we’re on to Biden. One woman says it’s the closest we can get to a 3rd term for Obama w/o electing Michelle. Lots of chuckles but also lots of heads nodding in agreement. Another says she would vote for him today but isn’t sure if he’s too “old” or “sloppy” to take on Trump.

— Danny Barefoot (@dannybarefoot) March 5, 2019
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Republicans identify most with conservatism, Democrats identify most with Obama; Democrats split in ideological identificationhttps://t.co/7NKhd2QsTf pic.twitter.com/kLQP0vVZgp

— Matt Grossmann (@MattGrossmann) March 6, 2019
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Regardless, in 2019, Biden evinces support for his party’s consensus on decarceration. Meanwhile, thanks to conservative courts, busing is a long-dead issue, of no contemporary political relevance. Within the Democratic coalition, the forces of racial liberalism are unmistakably ascendant. Whether that coalition has someone accountable to it in the next White House will almost certainly do more to determine federal policy on civil rights than the question of precisely whom that Democratic someone is. And with most polls suggesting that Biden is Team Blue’s most viable general-election candidate, one can construct a perfectly rational argument for why black voters and racial-justice advocates should rally behind Uncle Joe.

That said, given the size and quality of the Democratic field — and the severity of Biden’s ideological offenses — I, for one, hope they conclude that he is unfit for rehabilitation.

Biden is a political opportunist, and so was Obama. Obama shrewdly chose Biden as his running mate in an effort to offset Obama's negatives, in the eyes of right of center oriented voters.

Biden's role was to make racists more comfortable with Obama's political platform and to increase racists' sense of trust that it was unlikely Obama concealed a "reparations for descendants of slaves", or other agenda perceived as "anti white".

This arrangement has morphed into Biden being perceived as the closest alternative to an Obama third term or a run for president by Michelle Obama. Trump is perceived as so awful, many voters could not justify risking their primary vote on a more progressive and perceived less electable candidate than Biden, because too much is at stake.

Biden is actually a magnet dangled by savvy democratic voters, in front of the eyes of right of center voters who supported Trump in 2016 but are not developmentally damaged enough to become Trump cultists.
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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1006 on: July 28, 2020, 07:20:12 PM »
Paul, if an honest discussion in this thread was possible, and so far, Trump supporters posting here have indicated they are incapable of facts supported discussion, I'd offer this well supported observation....

Ironically, Biden's strength is a sure sign Trump's MAGA effect has set the country back at least a dozen years, even if Trump is turned out of office, 98 days from now. So, Trumpkinism has the lasting effect of setting the U.S. back somewhere between 70 and 12 years!

In my last two posts, I wanted to make it crystal clear how absurd it is for Royell and Trump to project Trump's open, militant racism onto Joe Biden.

This article savages Biden's record and attempts to explain why his record is overlooked, especially by black voters.
Nostalgia for Obama and anticipating that Biden's right of center record will strengthen his appeal in the general election, more than any other democratic primary candidate could, explains how Biden got here.

Biden was not Obama's V.P. pick because Obama thought highly of him and his long political record, in fact, quite the opposite. Biden was chosen as bait intended to hook the highest number of former "Reagan Democrats", and perhaps some republicans with concerns about John McCain's health and his mistaken elevation of Sarah Palin.

Biden is a political opportunist, and so was Obama. Obama shrewdly chose Biden as his running mate in an effort to offset Obama's negatives, in the eyes of right of center oriented voters.

Biden's role was to make racists more comfortable with Obama's political platform and to increaseracists' sense of trust that it was unlikely Obama concealed a "reparations for descendants of slaves", or other agenda perceived as "anti white".

This arrangement has morphed into Biden being perceived as the closest alternative to an Obama third term or a run for president by Michele Obama. Trump is perceived as so awful, many voters could not justify risking their primary vote on a more progressive and perceived less electable candidate than Biden, because too much is at stake.

Biden is actually a magnet dangled by savvy democratic voters, in front of the eyes of right of center voters who supported Trump in 2016 but are not developmentally damaged enough to become Trump cultists.

Well thought out posting Tom. I’ve never been a Biden guy but I will be Nov. 3.

Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1007 on: July 28, 2020, 07:29:12 PM »
@FoxNews - Trump and his campaign remain uninterested in engaging the twin crises — the coronavirus pandemic and racial unrest — engulfing the nation, and GOP senators are growing concerned that his inaction will drag down their majority.