Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #126 on: August 09, 2020, 07:51:14 AM »
You can’t even quote Monty Python correctly. What a waste of oxygen.

I f*rt in your general direction.
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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #127 on: August 09, 2020, 08:12:55 AM »
Different age, different weight, different clothing.

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different clothing

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Like you know what shirt Oswald wore to work. LOL!

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #128 on: August 09, 2020, 03:04:51 PM »
Think Different*


Brennan estimated age at a distance and angle
Oswald thinning hair, sullen demeanour adds years


Brennan estimated weight at a distance and angle
Thick neck, bulky shirt a factor

Bright sunshine contrasted with deep shadow
visually lightens objects. Including clothing.
Colour is subjective.

An altogether fair assessment

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*apologies to Apple


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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #129 on: August 09, 2020, 03:38:11 PM »
Howard Brennan was an important eyewitness, on the same day not only did he give a fairly accurate identification of Oswald
Again...consult a dictionary or go back to school and learn how to use one. Identification means that he ascertained it was Oswald. Did he know Oswald? A given description that could have been 50,000 other guys in downtown Dallas.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #130 on: August 09, 2020, 08:07:15 PM »
Think Different*

Brennan estimated age at a distance and angle
Oswald thinning hair, sullen demeanour adds years

Brennan estimated weight at a distance and angle
Thick neck, bulky shirt a factor

'Different clothing'
Bright sunshine contrasted with deep shadow visually lightens objects
Colour is subjective

An altogether fair assessment

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Bonus
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CTers are now 'knowledge-advanced' for having read this


*apologies to Apple

Circular arguments are so compelling.

Offline Michael T. Griffith

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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #131 on: August 09, 2020, 08:23:18 PM »
The camera-right hole has a thread that goes up pass the collar seam. Is all.

You either have a vision problem or an honesty problem. We both know what the picture shows.

Even the FBI lab said the slits were made by a fragment, not by a whole bullet, because they found no copper around the slits and because of the slits' "irregular" nature.


McKnight's claim: "As Carrico explained to Specter the use of scalpels was "the usual practice” in a medical emergency of this nature."

Dr. Carrico: As I said after I had opened his shirt and coat, I proceeded
     with the examination and the nurses removed his clothing as is the
     usual procedure.

Wow, you will try to bend and twist anything, won't you? First off, I noticed you snipped and ignored the point that one of the Parkland nurses confirmed that a nurse made the slits and nicked the tie knot. I notice you just snipped and ignored that. I guess perhaps you didn't want to have to resort to calling her a liar or to saying she was "mistaken."

Of course the "usual procedure" was to remove the clothing. He did not address *how* they did so here.


Spector: And was no examination of clothing made, Dr. Carrico?
Dr. Carrico: Again, this was a matter of time. The clothes were removed; the
     nurses, as is the usual practice. And the full attention was devoted to trying
     to resuscitate the President.

Well, first of all, it's "Specter" not "Spector." You again show that your knowledge of the case is poor.

Dr. Carrico appears to be describing as "usual practice" the removal of clothing in general, but NOT the use of scalpels.

You know this is misleading. You are comparing apples to oranges. He was not talking about *how* they removed the clothes but just saying that the standard practice was to remove the clothes.

I repeat the point that one of the nurses later stated that a nurse made the slits and nicked the tie. Was shey lying or "mistaken"?


McKnight's claim: "Allen Dulles, who accompanied Specter to Dallas, asked
     Carrico twice to show him the location of the hole in Kennedy’s anterior neck.
     The Parkland doctor responded on both occasions locating a point above
     the collar line"


Dulles: Will you show us about where it was?
Dr. Carrico: Just about where your tie would be.
Dulles: Where did it enter?
Dr. Carrico: It entered?
Dulles: Yes.
Dr. Carrico: At the time we did not know --
Dulles: I see.
Dr. Carrico: The entrance. All we knew this was a small wound here.
Dulles: I see. And you put your hand right above where your tie is?
Dr. Carrico: Yes, sir; just where the tie...
Dulles: A little bit to the left.
Dr. Carrico: To the right.

It's somewhat ambiguous, but the first time Carrico says "about where your tie would be" and the second time he says "just where the tie...". To me, it seems about where the tie knot was. I would say it's more unclear as to what Dulles refers to with "you put your hand right above where your tie is" because that would as well apply to Carrico with his hand over the surface of the tie, not above the level of it.

LOL! "Ambiguous"???! It is only "ambiguous" in your mind because you don't want to read plain English.

Dulles: I see. And you put your hand right above where your tie is?
Dr. Carrico: Yes, sir; just where the tie...
Dulles: A little bit to the left.
Dr. Carrico: To the right.

What don't you understand about "You put your hand right above your tie?" and "Yes, sir"? Gosh, this is just silly. If Carrico had meant to put his hand ON his tie, he would have easily done so.

And did you notice that Carrico said it was "the entrance"?

When Carrico spoke with Weisberg, he said the wound was above the collar, just barely above the collar. 

Todd Vaughn, whom McKnight acknowledges in his essay, discovered a 1997 interview of Carrico by Bob Porter, of the Sixth Floor Museum ( Link YouTube ).

Porter: You don’t know exactly where it was or not?
Dr. Carrico: ...whether it was through the collar or not but it was certainly
     at the collar line. It was just about right there, just to the right of the
     trachea and just a, certainly where his collar should have been.

In the same interview, Carrico describes scissors being used:

Dr. Carrico: Yeah the - what, uh - I - you know I was doing other stuff.
     I was looking at his head and stuff, and Diane was doing that.
     But what you normally do is you take scissors, right there, or
     right there...

You are once again twisting words. If you read Carrico's answer with any care, you quickly see that he was indicating that in this case the nurse (Diana Bowron) did *not* use scissors. Notice the "BUT": "But what you normally do is take scissors," clearly implying that what Bowron did was not what they would normally do. He implied that the way Bowron was removing the clothing was not "what you normally do," hence the "But." He contrasting how Bowron removed the clothes with how they "normally" removed them.

Dr. Carrico said the wound "was fairly round" and "an even round wound", and "5- to 8-mm. in size". Dr. Perry said the wound was "approximately 5 mm. in diameter"; Dr Perry said "roughly 5 mm. in size or so"; Dr. Jones said "probably no larger than a quarter of an inch in diameter."

Jones was out to lunch. Some Parkland witnesses said the throat wound was as small as 3 mm in diameter, and they noted that it was a "puncture" wound. Go read the 11/22/63 Parkland treatment reports. Go read Humes's notes on his phone call with Perry: Humes wrote that Perry told him the throat wound was "3-5 mm" in diameter. 3 mm would be 0.11 inches, or barely 1/10th of an inch. 5 mm would be 0.19 inches, or less than 1/4 of an inch. 8 mm would be 0.31 inches, or less than 1/3 of an inch.

No one, including those with him when he first saw the President, confirmed Ebersole's recollection.

Oh? Really? Robinson said the throat wound he saw was very neat and small, nothing like the big gash seen in the autopsy photos.

While most probably offer honest recollections, lawyers are taught that witness testimony can be unreliable. The witness believes it to be true.

But Ebersole's recollection about the location of the large head wound is corroborated by dozens of other witnesses in three different locations, by the wound diagrams drawn for the HSCA and the ARRB, and by autopsy photo F8. His recollection of a late-arriving occipital-bone fragment was inadvertently confirmed by Boswell, in addition to being confirmed by the above-named sources.




Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory
« Reply #132 on: August 09, 2020, 08:29:49 PM »

Wow, you will try to bend and twist anything, won't you? First off, I noticed you snipped and ignored the point that one of the Parkland nurses confirmed that a nurse made the slits and nicked the tie knot. I notice you just snipped and ignored that. I guess perhaps you didn't want to have to resort to calling her a liar or to saying she was "mistaken."

What was the name of the nurse, and where can we read her statement on the matter?