Getting Some Facts Straight About the Single-Bullet Theory

[Bill Chapman]

Circular arguments are so compelling.

Different age, different weight, different clothing
That's it? Full stop? Those are estimations. We all know that.
Where's your 'knowledge-advancement' there, Professor?
Continue to circle those wagons, Tex.

'Circular argument'
I don't seek a desired result
I truck in feasibility

Brennan estimated weight at a distance and angle
Thick neck, bulky shirt a factor

[Tim Nickerson]

I believe it's Diana Bowron. She merited a whole chapter named after her in Livingstone's 1993 book "Killing the Truth".

Todd Vaughan wrote:

     During Dr. Carrico's interview, he mentions a nurse named Diana Bowron.
     In the 1990’s conspiracy author Harrison Livingstone (High Treason, Killing
     the Truth) located, corresponded with, and interviewed Bowron. I just happen
     to have a cassette tape copy of the telephone interview he did with her.
     Livingstone also published a transcript of the interview in his 1993 book,
     "Killing the Truth", and he also included a statement that Diana Bowron
     wrote for him.

     In both the interview and the statement, Diana Bowron claims that she saw
     President Kennedy’s throat wound while Kennedy was still in the limousine
     in the Parkland Hospital ambulance bay. In her written statement for
     Livingstone she says:

     "I turned his head, and seeing the entry wound in the front of the throat, I could
     feel no pulse at the jugular."

     Bowron gives no more details in the interview with Livingstone, simply stating
     that she saw the throat wound while the President was still in the car.

     Seeing the wound while the President was still in the car certainly implies that
     the throat wound may have been at least visible above the collar line, and
     possibly actually located above the collar line, assuming that Bowron didn’t
     manipulate the collar at all while feeling for the pulse.

     But incredibly, Livingstone never elicits any more information about this from
     Bowron. He never asks her how she was able to see the wound or whether
     or not it was above the collar line.

     And Bowron never explains, and Livingstone never asks, how she cut off the
     President's clothes.

McKnight writes:

    "Nurse Diane Bowron told Specter “...Miss Henchliffe and I cut off his clothing.”
     (6H 136) The instrument used was a scalpel, Carrico told Weisberg. The
     record of this conversation can be found in the Weisberg Subject Index File
     under “Dr. Carrico,” items 02 and 03."

Apparently, Bowron is a "source" for the use of scalpels only because she help cut off the President's clothing. How do we know scalpels were used? Dr. Carrico "told" Weisberg.

There is a December 1971 note made by Weisberg concerning Dr. Carrico:

     "Clothes cut off by nurses while he did his own emergency work, which precluded
     watching them. Folded back. Usual to cut off and unbutton collar and top shirt.
     Speed essential. Usual to cut tie a single thickness and pull out, not to cut through
     knot. Thinks likely when I described nick in knot and slits in shirt front that slit made
     when cutting tie."

We have no transcript; only Weisberg's interpretation. Carrico may have ventured the tie knot nick was made during removal of clothes, but doesn't say it was a scalpel used. Weisberg thinks a scalpel was used to remove the clothing, therefore Dr. Carrico "confirms" it.

Carrico told the Commission he didn't examine the clothing.

Mr. SPECTER - Did you have any occasion or opportunity to examine the
     President's clothing?
Dr. CARRICO - We did not do that.
Mr. SPECTER - And was no examination of clothing made, Dr. Carrico?
Dr. CARRICO - Again, this was a matter of time. The clothes were removed 
     the nurses, as is the usual practice, and the full attention was devoted to
     trying to resuscitate the President.

Dr. Ronald C. Jones in 2003 points to neck wound location. (from Vaughan)

Thanks Jerry.

Mr. SPECTER - How many holes did you see?
Miss BOWRON - I just saw one large hole.
Mr. SPECTER - Did you see a small bullet hole beneath that one large hole?
Miss BOWRON - No, sir.
Mr. SPECTER - Did you notice any other wound on the President's body?
Miss BOWRON - No, sir.
Mr. SPECTER - And what action did you take at that time, if any?
Miss BOWRON - I helped to lift his head and Mrs. Kennedy pushed me away and lifted his head herself onto the cart and so I went around back to the cart and walked off with it. We ran on with it to the trauma room and she ran beside us.

[John Mytton]

LOL! "Ambiguous"! It is only "ambiguous" in your mind because you don't want to read plain English.

Dulles: I see. And you put your hand right above where your tie is?
Dr. Carrico: Yes, sir; just where the tie...
Dulles: A little bit to the left.
Dr. Carrico: To the right.

What don't you understand about "You put your hand right above your tie?" and "Yes, sir"? Gosh, this is just silly. If Carrico had meant to put his hand ON his tie, he would have easily done so.

And did you notice that Carrico said it was "the entrance"?

Wow, talk about a complete misunderstanding and inability to interpret the evidence, for a start Carrico was not anatomically identical to Kennedy and wasn't wearing the same fitted shirt or tie, so when Carrico was pointing to the location of the wound on his own body, his Adams apple, the tie and collar is immaterial and using different clothing on someone else's body to locate the wound position is utterly pointless.

Carrico describes in pure anatomical terminology where the wound was on JFK

Mr. SPECTER Will you describe, as specifically as you can then, the neck wounds
which you heretofore mentioned briefly?
Dr. CARRICO. There was a small wound, 5- to S-mm. in size, located in the
lower third of the neck, below the thyroid cartilage, the Adams apple.

As we can see on the actual John F Kennedy is that his Adams apple is in the lower third of his neck, a relatively low position.



And when we overlay JFK at Love Field with the wound location as seen in the autopsy photo, the corresponding position correlates to where we see Kennedy's Adams apple to be, and by coincidence is where the slits are on Kennedy's shirt, how about that!



Btw claiming that the two slits which are not linked to the shirts extremities were cut by a scalpel through a closely buttoned up shirt, right over Kennedy's throat to help in the removal of Kennedy's clothing is absurd, how do you people come up with these bizarre ideas, is anything ever logically thought through?

JohnM

[Bill Chapman]

You can’t even quote Monty Python correctly. What a waste of oxygen.

You left out the important part.
To wit: My apologies to John Tonkovich and Jerry Freeman.
Can't ad-hom that, huh.

[Michael T. Griffith]

Thanks Jerry.

Mr. SPECTER - How many holes did you see?
Miss BOWRON - I just saw one large hole.
Mr. SPECTER - Did you see a small bullet hole beneath that one large hole?
Miss BOWRON - No, sir.
Mr. SPECTER - Did you notice any other wound on the President's body?
Miss BOWRON - No, sir.

And where did Bowron say that large hole was? Why did you leave out the question and answer that come immediately before this segment? Let us read what you omitted:

Mr. SPECTER. You saw the condition of his what?
Miss BOWRON. The back of his head.
Mr. SPECTER. And what was that condition?
Miss BOWRON. Well, it was very bad--you know. (6 H 136)

You omitted this because you did not want readers to know that the nurse who packed JFK's large head wound with gauze squares and who wrapped his head in a sheet said that the large wound was in the back of the head. It would be pretty silly and lame to suggest that after packing the wound with gauze and wrapping the head in a sheet, she would "mistake" a wound that was above and forward of the right ear for a wound that was in the back of the head.

As for Dr. Jones, he did not arrive until after JFK's clothing had been removed. By his own admission, he got to Trauma Room 1 "a few minutes" after Dr. Carrico, Nurse Bowron, Nurse Henchliffe, and Nurse Nelson had already arrived there (6 H 52-53). Jones did not see them remove the clothing because this had already been done by the time he arrived.

By the way, Jones said the throat wound was no more than 1/4 inch in diameter (6 H 53). He added that it was a "very small, smooth wound" and that therefore it looked like it could have been made by a bone fragment (6 H 54). But Jones never saw the throat wound's location in relation to the shirt collar because JFK's clothing had already been removed by the time he entered the room.

Jones did get a good look at the head wound, however. Guess where he said it was located? Let us read what he said:

Mr. SPECTER. Will you describe as precisely as you can the nature of the
head wound?
Dr. JONES. There was large defect in the back side of the head as the President lay on the cart with what appeared to be some brain hanging out of this wound with multiple pieces of skull noted next with the brain and with a tremendous amount of clot and blood. (6 H 53-54)

Regarding the "irregular" slits in the front of JFK's shirt (that was the WC's term for them) and Organ's silly claim that the slits are the same length, even the HSCA FPP said the slits are not the same length: the FPP said that the right slit is 1.5 cm long and that the left slit is 1.4 cm long (7 HSCA 89).

Concerning Dr. Jones' depiction of the throat wound's location in the video that Jerry Organ linked, he puts the wound well below where other doctors put it--he puts it at least 1 inch below the Adam's apple. But Dr. Perry said said it was "just below" the Adam's apple--which would be slightly above the collar. Dr. Carrico, as we've seen, pointed to a point just above his collar when asked where the throat wound was.

Moreover, if Dr. Jones' depiction is correct, there would be a hole through JFK's tie knot, but there is none--there is only small nick near the left edge that was made by one of the nurses as she rushed to cut off the tie. This is another huge problem for the SBT. You wanna push the wound down to the level of the tie knot? Okay, then there should be a hole through the tie, but there's only a tiny nick, and the nick is not even on the edge of the knot.

You guys can't get the bullet from the back wound to the throat wound without ignoring a pile of evidence to the contrary. You can't explain how a non-yawing/non-tumbling bullet could make two slits of unequal length while supposedly exiting the front of JFK's shirt. You can't explain how your magic bullet could have missed the tie knot. And you can't explain how any bullet of any type could have made the H-shaped tear in the front of Connally's shirt. You can't do these things because your SBT is a joke that was only cooked up in desperation by some WC lawyers who were not allowed to admit that there was more than one gunman.

[Bill Chapman]

And where did Bowron say that large hole was? Why did you leave out the question and answer that come immediately before this segment? Let us read what you omitted:

Mr. SPECTER. You saw the condition of his what?
Miss BOWRON. The back of his head.
Mr. SPECTER. And what was that condition?
Miss BOWRON. Well, it was very bad--you know. (6 H 136)

You omitted this because you did not want readers to know that the nurse who packed JFK's large head wound with gauze squares and who wrapped his head in a sheet said that the large wound was in the back of the head. It would be pretty silly and lame to suggest that after packing the wound with gauze and wrapping the head in a sheet, she would "mistake" a wound that was above and forward of the right ear for a wound that was in the back of the head.

As for Dr. Jones, he did not arrive until after JFK's clothing had been removed. By his own admission, he got to Trauma Room 1 "a few minutes" after Dr. Carrico, Nurse Bowron, Nurse Henchliffe, and Nurse Nelson had already arrived there (6 H 52-53). Jones did not see them remove the clothing because this had already been done by the time he arrived.

By the way, Jones said the throat wound was no more than 1/4 inch in diameter (6 H 53). He added that it was a "very small, smooth wound" and that therefore it looked like it could have been made by a bone fragment (6 H 54). But Jones never saw the throat wound's location in relation to the shirt collar because JFK's clothing had already been removed by the time he entered the room.

Jones did get a good look at the head wound, however. Guess where he said it was located? Let us read what he said:

Mr. SPECTER. Will you describe as precisely as you can the nature of the
head wound?
Dr. JONES. There was large defect in the back side of the head as the President lay on the cart with what appeared to be some brain hanging out of this wound with multiple pieces of skull noted next with the brain and with a tremendous amount of clot and blood. (6 H 53-54)

Regarding the "irregular" slits in the front of JFK's shirt (that was the WC's term for them) and Organ's silly claim that the slits are the same length, even the HSCA FPP said the slits are not the same length: the FPP said that the right slit is 1.5 cm long and that the left slit is 1.4 cm long (7 HSCA 89).

Concerning Dr. Jones' depiction of the throat wound's location in the video that Jerry Organ linked, he puts the wound well below where other doctors put it--he puts it at least 1 inch below the Adam's apple. But Dr. Perry said said it was "just below" the Adam's apple--which would be slightly above the collar. Dr. Carrico, as we've seen, pointed to a point just above his collar when asked where the throat wound was.

Moreover, if Dr. Jones' depiction is correct, there would be a hole through JFK's tie knot, but there is none--there is only small nick near the left edge that was made by one of the nurses as she rushed to cut off the tie. This is another huge problem for the SBT. You wanna push the wound down to the level of the tie knot? Okay, then there should be a hole through the tie, but there's only a tiny nick, and the nick is not even on the edge of the knot.

You guys can't get the bullet from the back wound to the throat wound without ignoring a pile of evidence to the contrary. You can't explain how a non-yawing/non-tumbling bullet could make two slits of unequal length while supposedly exiting the front of JFK's shirt. You can't explain how your magic bullet could have missed the tie knot. And you can't explain how any bullet of any type could have made the H-shaped tear in the front of Connally's shirt. You can't do these things because your SBT is a joke that was only cooked up in desperation by some WC lawyers who were not allowed to admit that there was more than one gunman.

Jackie:
'Top, behind the forehead'

Name your shooter(s)

[John Tonkovich]

UPDATE re suit or shirt

My apologies to Tonkoviich and Freeman: I just did a double-take on my claim of saying that Nellie washed his shirt I actually did say suit originally.

May a thousand camels f*rt in my general direction*

*Source: Monty Python

Do you understand why Connally's suit was laundered?
Hint: might have something to do with Connally's political future.