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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2464 on: August 20, 2023, 09:37:22 PM »
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Does Mr. Doyle at least agree hat Oswald was probably in the Domino room by 12:26 such that he could have seen James Jarman and Harold Norman going past when they reentered TSBD by the rear loading dock door?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2464 on: August 20, 2023, 09:37:22 PM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2465 on: August 21, 2023, 05:03:52 PM »
This is all pure Doyle fantasy. The only thing Stanton’s relatives said is that she told them she saw Oswald on an unspecified staircase at an unspecified time holding a Pepsi.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2466 on: August 21, 2023, 06:34:52 PM »
That’s a whole lot of words to admit that nobody ever said that Stanton saw him on the second floor. Or when.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2466 on: August 21, 2023, 06:34:52 PM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2467 on: August 23, 2023, 09:36:48 PM »
I’m sorry , but I don’t quite follow the logic of Hosty writing down notes of Oswald having said that he went outside to watch “THE P.PARADE” to describe himself going out AFTER shots fired because that’s seems an unlikely phrase to use.

Would he not have more likely said some phrase such as “I went out to see what all the commotion/ noise of sirens etc was about”

Since it doesn’t seem likely that Hosty would fabricate the P.Parade note which is surely contradictory to the narrative being constructed by Will Fritz ( under pressure from LBJ himself no less)

And since Fritz went out of his way to refute this supposed “out front” statement by Oswald by having 3 more interviewer to write statements claiming Oswald had DENIED being out front at time of shots…

Logical deduction therefore is more probable that Hosty was truthful.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2468 on: August 24, 2023, 10:18:18 PM »
When did Buell Frazier state that a partly-eaten cheese sandwich and apple were seen on the 2nd Floor Lunch Room table after the assassination?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2468 on: August 24, 2023, 10:18:18 PM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2469 on: August 25, 2023, 10:07:27 AM »
REFUTED:
--------------AltgensDoorwayman = LHO
--------------PM-in-Darnell = LHO
--------------PM-in-Darnell = Mrs. Sarah Stanton

UNREFUTED:
--------------Mr. Oswald in interrogation said he "went outside to watch P. Parade"
--------------Mr. Oswald's claim to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade" was buried in the official interrogation reports
--------------There is an impossible shadow down Mr. Lovelady's side in Wiegman
--------------The Towner film shows least one flag being waved from the lower west side of the doorway as Pres. Kennedy passes
--------------The Hughes film shows Mr. Oswald in the doorway, wearing the reddish shirt later tagged as CE151, and drinking from a bottle:

--------------Later frames in the Hughes film show Mr. Bill Shelley walking away from the scene (going south across the Main-Houston intersection), carrying something(s)
--------------The paper sack which Mr. Oswald will later be accused of having brought the rifle to work in makes its first appearance in Darnell:

--------------Darnell also shows Officer Marion Baker beating a path for the woman who is holding this sack up:


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« Last Edit: August 25, 2023, 10:30:01 AM by Alan Ford »

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2470 on: August 26, 2023, 08:07:19 PM »
Mr. Sandy Larsen really did wonderful work with this gif:



Look at Officer Baker in the first frames, and you'll assume he's heading straight for the doorway. But then the actual doorway comes into view. It's quite a jolt.

He's not heading for the doorway at all. Nor is the running woman just a little north-east of him heading for the doorway. They are both heading straight for this woman and what she is holding up:



Her reaction to the assassination has been to go over to the mailboxes and pick up a paper sack. She must have just seen something that disturbed her enough to make her do this--------------and to draw attention
« Last Edit: August 26, 2023, 08:28:52 PM by Alan Ford »

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2471 on: August 27, 2023, 02:19:30 AM »
I’ve seen no statement from Buell W. Frazier that specifically identifies PM figure as Sarah Stanton.

If BW Frazier would like to post on this forum that he is certain that the PM figure is Sarah Stanton, then that would be great.