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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2456 on: July 12, 2023, 01:23:47 PM »
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Only two that I know of, and neither said “looks just like Pauline Sanders”. Or even “looks like a woman”. You’re way overthinking this neckline thing.

Nope, just thinking about it-----and facing the implications of what the frame shows.

But like I say, if you think this neckline could conceivably belong to a man in Dallas '63, who am I to tell you to desist from such silliness?


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2456 on: July 12, 2023, 01:23:47 PM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2457 on: July 14, 2023, 05:53:45 AM »
Mr.Fords theoretical position for Oswald out front on the steps: Oswald = Lovelady
remains as questionable as the old theory Oswald=PM.

The pendulum can swing more in favor of Mr.Fords new theory if :

A. There is more substantiation of this claimed “original” Darnell film frame that the white necklace effect on PM is not an aberration or distortion from camera or translation to pixel format on the computer or smart phone screen and is therefore a true image.

B. The apparent seemly solid tone reddish brown color of the shirt of presumed Lovelady in Hughes film is not due to morphing of black and red checkerboard squared pattern and can be shown by experiment that the shirt is more probably a solid tone reddish shirt.
 
Note for B: perhaps Oswald’s actual reddish brown shirt could be worn by some person and that person be filmed with the Hughes type 63 era camera at the same distance and same sun angle. Then repeat and have someone wear Lovelady type red and black square shirt. Then compare the results as they are translated to pixel format from the 2 films.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2458 on: August 18, 2023, 12:54:01 PM »

Brief recap!: When Mr. Oswald (green arrow) leans to his right, we catch a glimpse of his reddish-sleeved right arm in the glass behind him (yellow arrow)

But there is more!: That lean also affords us a fleeting glimpse of something else being reflected in the glass. Orange arrow:



What is it? It's too light-colored to be the back of Mr. Oswald's reddish shirt, or of his dark pants.

It's the flag. He's holding it behind him, in his left hand, and is a moment away from whipping it out and starting to wave it.

This also explains why we don't see the flesh of his left hand: it's covered by his body.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2459 on: August 18, 2023, 01:15:30 PM »
Brief recap!: When Mr. Oswald (green arrow) leans to his left, we catch a glimpse of his reddish-sleeved right arm in the glass behind him (yellow arrow)

But there is more!: That lean also affords us a fleeting glimpse of something else being reflected in the glass. Orange arrow:



But there is YET more!:

The reflection of the flag in the glass just so happens to coincide with this little bright flash:



I thought it was a camera flash. No: it's a flutter from the flag (not a reflection, the thing itself)

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2460 on: August 18, 2023, 10:13:59 PM »
Who let Doyle back in here? Time to fire up the “Doyle falsehoods” list again, currently numbering 784.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2460 on: August 18, 2023, 10:13:59 PM »


Online Gerry Down

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2461 on: August 19, 2023, 12:15:04 AM »
All are welcome here, let people have their say.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2462 on: August 19, 2023, 02:08:04 AM »
It's important all viewpoints are heard as any person might have a clue that could help crack the case.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2462 on: August 19, 2023, 02:08:04 AM »


Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2463 on: August 19, 2023, 09:39:57 PM »
Imo if the 3rd party memory of relatives of Stanton is accurate, that Oswald was seen by
Stanton around the 2nd floor lunchroom staircase just BEFORE Stanton left to go outside to the front steps of TSBD., then it was probably approx 12:12 at the latest. Stanton got outside and was on the steps probably right AT 12:15 having preceded Mrs Reid and Carolyn Arnold arriving slightly later.

I don’t see any conflict with Carolyn Arnold’s 12:15  2nd floor lunchroom sighting of Oswald or a latter possible 12:25 front lobby sighting, because it all fits with the theory Oswald having gone outside in watch the P.Parade just as FBI agent Hosty notes recorded.