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Offline Patrick Jackson

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2032 on: February 13, 2023, 01:37:07 PM »
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I have very little doubt that the LHO was on the front door steps together with Lovelady and that the person in the Hughes film was Roscoe White.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2032 on: February 13, 2023, 01:37:07 PM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2033 on: February 13, 2023, 04:57:14 PM »
Surely.
The first one was connecting him to the center of the pedestal.
I believe he was at the north end according to the photo, so that is where I made this connection.


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Perhaps the yellow traffic pole offers another useful point of reference?


Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2034 on: February 13, 2023, 05:43:21 PM »
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Perhaps the yellow traffic pole offers another useful point of reference?



Pinpoint the traffic pole on a map, then.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2034 on: February 13, 2023, 05:43:21 PM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2035 on: February 13, 2023, 07:13:17 PM »
Pinpoint the traffic pole on a map, then.

It's already pinpointed on the map Mr. Davidson has been using, Mr. Organ

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2036 on: February 13, 2023, 07:56:33 PM »
Friends, there are still some details to be teased out here and there, and some jolly back-and-forth to be had, but I believe we are now at the point where we can-------------for the very first time ever------------track Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald's exact positions/movements during the assassination.

POSITION A

Mr. Oswald is just behind Mr. Carl Edward Jones at the bottom of the west side of the entrance way.

We first see him here in Hughes, sipping from his Coke bottle, which he holds in his right hand-------------

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The next time we see him here is in Towner a couple of seconds later------------



(We don't see him in Bell because he is blocked by all the intervening foliage.)

The final glimpse of him in this same spot is in the version of the Altgens photograph shown live on TV by Mr. Walter Cronkite the evening of the assassination. He is caught doing once again exactly what we saw him do a few seconds prior in Hughes: taking a drink from his Coke, which he holds in his right hand:



POSITION B

Mr. Oswald, in response presumably to hearing the first loud bang, and wishing to better see what's going on down Elm St., has moved across to his left (i.e. east).

He is now here, his recognizable face hidden to history by a ridiculous and physically impossible artificial shadow that has been added down Mr. Lovelady's right side in the Wiegman frames:



By the time of Darnell, he has left the front steps.

The Weaver photo suggests he came out through that glass front door at the very last minute, and so would have stayed on those steps for under a minute in all.

Mr. Oswald claimed in that first interrogation that he "went outside to watch P. Parade", and he was telling the truth. The rest is non-history.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Offline Chris Davidson

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2037 on: February 13, 2023, 10:34:22 PM »
Alan,

Another would probably be, as you have long suspected, the action upon the TSBD steps so clearly in view from Towner's position.

The splice is between 2+3
A little clearer, hopefully:

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2038 on: February 13, 2023, 10:55:14 PM »
The splice is between 2+3
A little clearer, hopefully:


Wow, Mr. Davidson, excellent stuff!

Have you any thoughts as to what is going on there (the flapping)? I never bought the 'It's a woman in the crowd' claim.

If the splice is related to this, what might they have wanted to hide?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2039 on: February 13, 2023, 11:38:24 PM »
It's the strangest darn thing, this Towner scene



Coming to it from Hughes...............:

-------------We can see that Mr. Carl Edward Jones is still in place (& stationary) ✔

-------------We can see that the figure behind him is still in place (& stationary) ✔

-------------But what the heck is that large flapping object just east of both men? ???
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