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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1320 on: February 20, 2021, 02:59:33 AM »
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Could there have been some preexisting animosity between Oswald and Mrs Reid that would be motive for Mrs Reid to conjure up a false story complete with added details of T-shirt and full coke, and entering rear door , walking slowly, mumbling.

IDK what Mrs Reid’s personal views were related to segregation and or rules of separation of workers and administration.

There is some other parts of her WC testimony where she relates looking up at the TSBD bldg after hearing 3 shots fired and seeing the “colored boys” of which 3 , she named  James Jarman as one she recognized.

So this might indicate that Mrs Reid has a particular bias that would might put her and Oswald at opposite ends of the political spectrum.

Especially even more pronounced because Oswald is

1. A self proclaimed Marxist
2. A USMC veteran who defected to To a communist country
3. Oswald routinely eats with those “colored boys”
4. Oswald often uses the 2nd floor lunchroom to actually eat his lunch , which would be breaking the rule Mrs Teid probably prefers of separate lunch rooms for 2nd floor Admin and worker 1st floor




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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1321 on: February 20, 2021, 10:30:48 PM »
Could there have been some preexisting animosity between Oswald and Mrs Reid that would be motive for Mrs Reid to conjure up a false story complete with added details of T-shirt and full coke, and entering rear door , walking slowly, mumbling.

IDK what Mrs Reid’s personal views were related to segregation and or rules of separation of workers and administration.

There is some other parts of her WC testimony where she relates looking up at the TSBD bldg after hearing 3 shots fired and seeing the “colored boys” of which 3 , she named  James Jarman as one she recognized.

So this might indicate that Mrs Reid has a particular bias that would might put her and Oswald at opposite ends of the political spectrum.

Especially even more pronounced because Oswald is

1. A self proclaimed Marxist
2. A USMC veteran who defected to To a communist country
3. Oswald routinely eats with those “colored boys”
4. Oswald often uses the 2nd floor lunchroom to actually eat his lunch , which would be breaking the rule Mrs Teid probably prefers of separate lunch rooms for 2nd floor Admin and worker 1st floor

Could there have been some preexisting animosity between Oswald and Mrs Reid that would be motive for Mrs Reid to conjure up a false story complete with added details of T-shirt and full coke, and entering rear door , walking slowly, mumbling.

Interesting thought  Zeon.....I doubt that Lee Oswald harbored any disllke for Mrs Reid....but she could easily have disliked him, ( just as many members of this forum hate him)   because she believed the facade he had created was real. 


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1322 on: February 22, 2021, 12:15:30 AM »
You know, this bottle may be some other kind of drink than either a coke or a Dr.pepper because there does not appear to be any solid bar horizontally devising the white label as in Dr.Pepper 1963 bottles nor is it the coke bottle with only the minimal white cursive lettering of the

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1323 on: February 22, 2021, 12:21:02 AM »
...a typical 1963 coke bottle

So now I’m wondering if this is so kind of speciality drink and that during the time of 12:01-12:14, that Oswald has “gone out”as possibly Eddie Piper has heard, in order to buy this speciality type of drink.

This bottle probably has Oswalds (PM)prints on it

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1324 on: February 22, 2021, 02:48:53 AM »
Nevertheless, from Bakers and Trulys WC testimony  neither saw anything in
Oswalds hands such as a bottle.

Well, as least after Baker scratched that part out of this affidavit.



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1325 on: February 22, 2021, 03:06:17 AM »
Well, as least after Baker scratched that part out of this affidavit.



One has to wonder WHY Baker scratched out the "drinking a coke" entry.....???

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1326 on: February 28, 2021, 10:17:15 AM »


Because Mrs Reid has made a very early FBI statement of having seen Oswald in the 2nd floor office very soon AFTER shots fired, then it became imperative to establish a timeline to make sure Baker was seeing Oswald BEFORE Mrs Reid, otherwise there might be a potential plausible alibi for Oswald .

there was probably  effort made to avoid contradictions between Baker and Reid.

If Oswald drank some portion of the coke during Bakers encounter, then it might be questioned why Reid would have seen the bottle as full.

Plus, the theory is that Oswald has just run down 4 flights staircases in haste to escape TSBD, so drinking a coke already in hand just 5  secs after “diverting just in time to avoid running into Baker and Truly “ might raise a question.

So easy fix: strike out “drinking a coke”

What about the “light brown jacket” which was definitely in contrast to Reid seeing Oswald in only a T-shirt?

Baker could “fix” his early light brown jacket description as who would believe he could mistake a  white T-shirt as light brown jacket?

The best fix they could do was to have Baker in WC testimony explain how he mistook the Oswald long sleeve brown shirt as a jacket.

They left the issue of T-shirt Oswald to the speculation for the public hopingfor the “Oswald must have taken off his brown shirt just after Baker left the lunchroom”

And The Story becomes Oswald must bought a coke AFTER  now that Baker, and Truly 2 now, In WC statement disavow seeing a coke.

So the Mrs Reid sort has been preserved as best they could do and Belin has done his stopwatch timeline to fix the story and everyone is satisfied now.

Except about 75% of the public which Hoover and LBJ were trying to convince that there was no conspiracy.








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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1326 on: February 28, 2021, 10:17:15 AM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1327 on: February 28, 2021, 12:48:18 PM »
One has to wonder WHY Baker scratched out the "drinking a coke" entry.....???

That's an easy one. Every second Oswald needed to work the machine and get the Coke out takes time away from the time he was supposed to have used to come down from the 6th floor.