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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1168 on: February 01, 2021, 03:02:52 PM »
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1. Mr Oswald visits second floor lunchroom for coke several minutes before the motorcade (and is noticed there by Ms Carolyn Arnold & Mr Jack Dougherty)
2. He returns to one and starts eating his lunch in the domino room (and notices Messrs Jarman & Norman enter), periodically checking out the front door for signs of the motorcade's arrival (being awkward with small talk, he is deliberately waiting until the last minute to go out)
3. He goes outside to watch the P. Parade (he's Prayer Man)
4. Officer Baker comes storming up the steps and asks him if he works there (to show him to the nearest stairs)... then Mr Truly comes along
5. Mr Oswald, alarmed by what has just happened, goes inside to check for the curtain rods he left in the front-of-house storage room
6. He comes back out to the lobby (having been noticed by Mr Ochus Campbell and perhaps Ms Jeraldean Reid?)... he has established that the curtain rods are gone

7. Mr Pierce Allman comes looking for a telephone; Mr Oswald points him the way
8. Mr Oswald walks down the front steps and leaves the building------------disappearing (as Chief Curry will tell reporters later that day) "in the crowd"
9. The next known sighting of him is by Mr Buell Wesley Frazier, who sees him walking south on the Houston side of the Depository and then crossing over and disappearing from sight (Mr Frazier mistakenly assumes he must have just left by the back door of the building)

In custody, Mr Oswald does NOT mention #5 & 6 to Captain Fritz. He does not want to admit to having carried ANY substantial package to work that morning.



1. Mr Oswald visits second floor lunchroom for coke several minutes before the motorcade (and is noticed there by Ms Carolyn Arnold & Mr Jack Dougherty)
2. He returns to one and starts eating his lunch in the domino room (and notices Messrs Jarman & Norman enter), periodically checking out the front door for signs of the motorcade's arrival (being awkward with small talk, he is deliberately waiting until the last minute to go out)

1.  Lee arrives at the Domino room and notices it is now empty and all his fellow employees have departed to go out front to watch the parade, and starts eating his lunch in the domino room (and notices Messrs Jarman & Norman enter the Shipping room), periodically checking out the front door for signs of the motorcade's arrival (being awkward with small talk, he is deliberately waiting until the last minute to go out)

2. Mr Oswald visits second floor lunchroom for coke several minutes before going outside.   While he's there in front of the coke machine, with the coke that he's just purchased in his hand,  the door flies open, and big motorcycle cop appears at the doorway, with his pistol in his hand.     .....  Then we have ....THE REST OF THE STORY. 

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1168 on: February 01, 2021, 03:02:52 PM »


Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1169 on: February 01, 2021, 04:40:41 PM »

 (and is noticed there by Ms Carolyn Arnold & Mr Jack Dougherty)

Where do you get the notion Dougherty saw Oswald in the second floor lunchroom from?

Mr. BALL - That you saw Oswald again at approximately 11 a.m. on the sixth floor?.
Mr. DOUGHERTY - That's right.
Mr. BALL - But you didn't see him again after that, is that your testimony?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1170 on: February 01, 2021, 09:03:42 PM »
Do you know what Alan, I've had a good look into this and am unhappy to report that it doesn't look right.
I have to agree with you - it can't be a shadow from the corner of the wall being cast on Lovelady.
Go figure

Your candor is appreciated, Mr O'Meara  Thumb1:

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1171 on: February 01, 2021, 09:05:44 PM »
1. Mr Oswald visits second floor lunchroom for coke several minutes before the motorcade (and is noticed there by Ms Carolyn Arnold & Mr Jack Dougherty)
2. He returns to one and starts eating his lunch in the domino room (and notices Messrs Jarman & Norman enter), periodically checking out the front door for signs of the motorcade's arrival (being awkward with small talk, he is deliberately waiting until the last minute to go out)

1.  Lee arrives at the Domino room and notices it is now empty and all his fellow employees have departed to go out front to watch the parade, and starts eating his lunch in the domino room (and notices Messrs Jarman & Norman enter the Shipping room), periodically checking out the front door for signs of the motorcade's arrival (being awkward with small talk, he is deliberately waiting until the last minute to go out)

2. Mr Oswald visits second floor lunchroom for coke several minutes before going outside.   While he's there in front of the coke machine, with the coke that he's just purchased in his hand,  the door flies open, and big motorcycle cop appears at the doorway, with his pistol in his hand.     .....  Then we have ....THE REST OF THE STORY.

You have arbitrarily reversed the sequence of events clearly set out in Agent Hosty's draft report----------

1. Visit to second floor lunchroom for coke
2. Down to 1 to eat
3. Then went outside to watch P. Parade.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1172 on: February 01, 2021, 09:06:08 PM »
(and is noticed there by Ms Carolyn Arnold & Mr Jack Dougherty)

Where do you get the notion Dougherty saw Oswald in the second floor lunchroom from?

Mr. BALL - That you saw Oswald again at approximately 11 a.m. on the sixth floor?.
Mr. DOUGHERTY - That's right.
Mr. BALL - But you didn't see him again after that, is that your testimony?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes.

He told Mr Gill Toff

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1173 on: February 01, 2021, 10:36:52 PM »
You have arbitrarily reversed the sequence of events clearly set out in Agent Hosty's draft report----------

1. Visit to second floor lunchroom for coke
2. Down to 1 to eat
3. Then went outside to watch P. Parade.

No, I have not reversed the sequence of events in Hosty's ( and  Bookhout's ) report....see page 613 WR

Oswald stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon, and he claimed that he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunchroom ; However he went to the second floor where the Coca- Cola machine was located and obtained a bottle of Coca Cola for his lunch. Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when President JOHN F. KENNEDY passed this building. 

Here's an excerpt From Hosty's book, page 23  Assignment: Oswald

Fritz is asking the questions at the first Interrogation session  which took place at 23:15 11/22/63

Where were you when the president went by the book depository?
"I was eating my lunch in the first floor lunchroom"
What time was that ?
"About noon"
Were you ever on the second floor about the time the president was shot?
"Well Yeah, I went up there to get a bottle of Coca-Cola from the machine for my lunch"
But where were you when the president actually passed your building?
"On the first floor in the lunchroom"
And then you left the book depository, isn't that right ? 
"Yeah"


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1174 on: February 01, 2021, 10:40:30 PM »
No, I have not reversed the sequence of events in Hosty's ( and  Bookhout's ) report...

Stop playing games, Mr Cakebread, you know full well I'm referring to the Hosty draft report that came to light in 2019. You're still in denial about its explosive contents


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1174 on: February 01, 2021, 10:40:30 PM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1175 on: February 02, 2021, 12:39:53 AM »
Stop playing games, Mr Cakebread, you know full well I'm referring to the Hosty draft report that came to light in 2019. You're still in denial about its explosive contents

Are you referring to Hosty's scribbled notes???