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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #952 on: January 20, 2021, 11:00:39 PM »
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So it turns out that, unlike Mr Cakebread, you believe-----------------

---------Mr Oswald did NOT, after his visit to the second floor lunchroom, go down to one to eat lunch
---------Mr Oswald did NOT then go out to (as he thought it) watch the P. Parade

Question! Do you believe that Mr Oswald did, however, make those claims in that first interrogation?

Now hold the phone there young Alan.
Let's have a bit of Quid Pro Quo.

Do you believe Marvin Johnson that Baker identified Oswald as the man he encountered in the TSBD ? Yes/No

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #952 on: January 20, 2021, 11:00:39 PM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #953 on: January 20, 2021, 11:06:24 PM »
Now hold the phone there young Alan.
Let's have a bit of Quid Pro Quo.

Do you believe Marvin Johnson that Baker identified Oswald as the man he encountered in the TSBD ? Yes/No

If you are referring to the man on "about the fourth floor", then no, he made no such firm identification.

Now! You believe that

---------Mr Oswald did NOT, after his visit to the second floor lunchroom, go down to one to eat lunch
---------Mr Oswald did NOT then go out to (as he thought it) watch the P. Parade

Do you believe that Mr Oswald did, however, make those claims in that first interrogation?
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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #954 on: January 20, 2021, 11:27:02 PM »
If you are referring to the man on "about the fourth floor", then no, he made no such firm identification.

Now! You believe that

---------Mr Oswald did NOT, after his visit to the second floor lunchroom, go down to one to eat lunch
---------Mr Oswald did NOT then go out to (as he thought it) watch the P. Parade

Do you believe that Mr Oswald did, however, make those claims in that first interrogation?

Ok, so you believe Johnson lied in his report on the 26th that Baker made the ID.

Yes, I do believe Oswald made those claims in his first interrogation.

Do you believe Karen Westbrook Scranton lied about hearing Mrs Reid telling people about her encounter with Oswald (in the Living History interview)?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #955 on: January 20, 2021, 11:35:00 PM »
Ok, so you believe Johnson lied in his report on the 26th that Baker made the ID.

Lied, or (less likely) misremembered.

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Yes, I do believe Oswald made those claims in his first interrogation.

Therefore you believe Mr Oswald was lying when he made those claims, yes?

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Do you believe Karen Westbrook Scranton lied about hearing Mrs Reid telling people about her encounter with Oswald (in the Living History interview)?

You asked me that before, and I answered: no.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #956 on: January 20, 2021, 11:48:27 PM »
Lied, or (less likely) misremembered.

You're saying he lied, he mentions it twice in the report even going so far as to link it to Baker getting caught in the same room as Oswald. No chance of misremembering.

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Therefore you believe Mr Oswald was lying when he made those claims, yes?

Of course he was lying about going outside to watch the parade.

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You asked me that before, and I answered: no.

So you believe Mrs Reid was telling people about her encounter with Oswald in the immediate aftermath of the assassination?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #957 on: January 21, 2021, 12:01:42 AM »
You're saying he lied, he mentions it twice in the report even going so far as to link it to Baker getting caught in the same room as Oswald. No chance of misremembering.

Not so. Quite possible that Officer Baker said something along the lines that this man looked familiar but he wasn't sure if he was the guy he'd caught walking away from the stairway, and that Det. Johnson misremembered this very hesitant recollection as a firm one. But---------as I've already indicated----------Det. Johnson probably just lied.

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Of course he was lying about going outside to watch the parade.

Why on earth would he do that?

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So you believe Mrs Reid was telling people about her encounter with Oswald in the immediate aftermath of the assassination?

An encounter with Mr Oswald in the (...) aftermath of the assassination? Sure. But, as we've already established, Ms Scranton's recollection of what Ms Reid was telling colleagues does not tally with the story Ms Reid told in her affidavit the next day.
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #958 on: January 21, 2021, 12:18:34 AM »
Not so. Quite possible that Officer Baker said something along the lines that this man looked familiar but he wasn't sure if he was the guy he'd caught walking away from the stairway, and that Det. Johnson misremembered this very hesitant recollection as a firm one. But---------as I've already indicated----------Det. Johnson probably just lied.

Ok, Johnson was part of the Hoax, along with Baker and Truly.

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Why on earth would he do that?

An alibi.

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An encounter with Mr Oswald in the (...) aftermath of the assassination? Sure. But, as we've already established, Ms Scranton's recollection of what Ms Reid was telling colleagues does not tally with the story Ms Reid told in her affidavit the next day.

Nothing of the sort was established. That's a weird thing to say.

Do you believe Oswald's claim of seeing Jarman and Norman (?)



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #958 on: January 21, 2021, 12:18:34 AM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #959 on: January 21, 2021, 12:23:25 AM »
Ok, Johnson was part of the Hoax, along with Baker and Truly.

No, he was not part of the lunchroom hoax.

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An alibi.

An alibi for what?

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Nothing of the sort was established. That's a weird thing to say.

I suggest you re-read the transcript of what Ms Scranton actually said.

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Do you believe Oswald's claim of seeing Jarman and Norman (?)

Yes. Do you?