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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #736 on: January 08, 2021, 12:18:56 AM »
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Friends, here is how Officer Baker in his 11/22/63 affidavit described the man he encountered "walking away from the stairway" on "the third or fourth floor":

========> "The man I saw was a white man approximately 30 years old, 5'9", 165 pounds, dark hair and wearing a light brown jacket"

And here is what we learn in a 9 Jan '64 FBI internal memo about the true source of the suspect description put out by DPD shortly after the shooting:

========> "An unidentified individual told Inspector SAWYER that he had seen an individual run from the TSBD building shortly after the shooting of President KENNEDY and that this individual was an unknown white male, approximately 30, slender build, 5'10", 165 pounds, carrying what looked to be a 30:30 or some type of Winchester rifle."

Hands up who thinks the uncanny similarity between the two descriptions is a coincidence!

Mr Ford...Can we focus on the Hosty notes?   You seem to think that the lunchroom meeting between Lee Oswald and Officer Baker never happened...  Is that your stance?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #736 on: January 08, 2021, 12:18:56 AM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #737 on: January 08, 2021, 12:45:14 AM »
Mr Ford...Can we focus on the Hosty notes?   You seem to think that the lunchroom meeting between Lee Oswald and Officer Baker never happened...  Is that your stance?

Of course, Mr Cakebread. Sensible researchers left the lunchroom fiction behind years ago.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #738 on: January 08, 2021, 12:49:12 AM »
Of course, Mr Cakebread. Sensible researchers left the lunchroom fiction behind years ago.

On what do you base that idea?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #738 on: January 08, 2021, 12:49:12 AM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #739 on: January 08, 2021, 01:03:09 AM »
On what do you base that idea?

Why, the evidence.

For example! Let's take the current topic: the revelation in Agent Hosty's draft interrogation report that Mr Oswald claimed to have visited the lunchroom before the P. Parade, gone down to one and then gone "outside to watch P. Parade".

Do you accept this as plain-as-day evidence that Mr Oswald did not----------contrary to what was later claimed----------confirm any post-assassination lunchroom encounter with Officer Baker and Mr Truly?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #740 on: January 08, 2021, 01:45:56 AM »
Why, the evidence.

For example! Let's take the current topic: the revelation in Agent Hosty's draft interrogation report that Mr Oswald claimed to have visited the lunchroom before the P. Parade, gone down to one and then gone "outside to watch P. Parade".

Do you accept this as plain-as-day evidence that Mr Oswald did not----------contrary to what was later claimed----------confirm any post-assassination lunchroom encounter with Officer Baker and Mr Truly?



 Mr Oswald claimed to have visited the lunchroom before the P. Parade, gone down to one and then gone "outside to watch P. Parade".

WHERE in Hosty's notes, does it sat that ?

Are you suggesting that Lee went to lunch at 12:00 O'clock?   Can you provide proof that Lee went to the second floor lunchroom BEFORE the P. parade arrived in Dealey plaza.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #741 on: January 08, 2021, 02:46:33 AM »
Need someone like Bill Brown, to visit the TSBD steps on November 22/2021 to do a couple of experiments to determine

A. If Lovelady shadow can be replicated in a motion film of similar 63 vintage camera
B. If Lovelady missing left shoulder/ extended left arm anomaly in Altgens photo can be replicated
C. Which type bottle, 1963 coke or 1963 Dr. Pepper bottle , held in hand as PM , while in the shadow, can cause a white splotch phenomenon
D. Have a person of 5’9” height stand at location between Lewis and Lovelady ( as in Altgens photo) with hand upraised with right hand, and replicate the forearm anomaly as seen in the fuzzy version of Altgens photo that Mr. Ford has recently discovered and posted several times this thread.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #742 on: January 08, 2021, 03:07:50 AM »
Question to Mr.Ford about the newly proposed location of Sarah Stanton at the fluffy white shirt person with hand upraised.

Is this person on the opposite (east side of the center hand rail as Billy Lovelady?

Is this persons hair light tone or dark?




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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #742 on: January 08, 2021, 03:07:50 AM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #743 on: January 08, 2021, 10:37:28 AM »


 Mr Oswald claimed to have visited the lunchroom before the P. Parade, gone down to one and then gone "outside to watch P. Parade".

WHERE in Hosty's notes, does it sat that ?

Are you trying to be cute, Mr Cakebread? As already stated multiple times, this crystal clear report of what Mr Oswald claimed in that first interrogation is in Agent Hosty's draft interrogation report. Are you suggesting Agent Hosty hallucinated or fabricated this claim?

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Are you suggesting that Lee went to lunch at 12:00 O'clock?   Can you provide proof that Lee went to the second floor lunchroom BEFORE the P. parade arrived in Dealey plaza.

You're still missing the point: We now have proof that Mr Oswald himself claimed to have gone to the second floor lunchroom BEFORE the parade. Your attempts to explain away this bombshell information contained in Agent Hosty's draft interrogation report are getting you nowhere.