Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Walt Cakebread]

Agent Hosty was present at that first interrogation, and his draft report makes perfectly clear what he heard Mr Oswald say: I went to the lunchroom on the second floor to buy a coke, then went down to the first floor, then "went outside to watch P. Parade":



This tells us not just that Mr Oswald claimed to have gone out front for the motorcade, but also that
-----------a) Mr Oswald claimed something utterly at odds with the 2FLRE story
-----------b) Mr Oswald's claims were so threatening to the official line that they had to be buried

The "out with Bill Shelly in front" is not from Agent Hosty's draft report but from Captain Fritz's non-contemporaneous notes (which, as has been deduced elsewhere, derived from Agent Bookhout's interrogation reports).

If this 'shadow' cannot be explained as a naturalistic phenomenon------and to date it has not been so explained--------then then implications are explosive: there was something in that doorway that the 'investigating' authorities desperately wanted to hide. I submit that that something must have been LHO-related, and reissue my cordial invitation to skeptics to offer a conceivable alternative motivation.

There is no 5'3" height discrepancy if at least one of PM's feet is one step down. Mr Andrej Stancak has modeled this quite painstakingly.

Also worth mentioning here is that Mr James Hackerott has viewed the superior copy of the Darnell frames held by the Sixth Floor Museum, and---------if his drawings are anything to go by----------saw that PM is a slim figure.

Finally, I once again sincerely believe that the left index finger of Mr Buell Wesley Frazier in this photograph is telling us the all important fact that Mr Buell Wesley Frazier's tongue dare not speak:



 

Agent Hosty was present at that first interrogation, and his draft report makes perfectly clear what he heard Mr Oswald say: I went to the lunchroom on the second floor to buy a coke, then went down to the first floor, then "went outside to watch P. Parade":



These notes were obviously written AFTER Hosty sat in on the first interrogation of Lee Oswald....The original hand scribbled notes of Hosty make no mention of Lee saying that he bought a coke and then went downstairs and ate his lunch before going out front to watch the P. parade.   The Coke issue first surfaced when Fritz confronted Lee with Officer Baker's report that he had encountered Lee in the second floor lunchroom about 90 seconds AFTER the shots were fired.  According to Hosty's notes ( see above)  After buying the coke, Lee went downstairs and ate his lunch before going outside to watch the P. Parade.  There was no parade to watch five minutes after Baker encountered Lee In the second floor lunchroom.

[Alan Ford]

These notes were obviously written AFTER Hosty sat in on the first interrogation of Lee Oswald....The original hand scribbled notes of Hosty make no mention of Lee saying that he bought a coke and then went downstairs and ate his lunch before going out front to watch the P. parade.

That's merely because we don't have the complete set of contemporaneous notes------Agent Hosty only allowed one page to be made public, a page that doesn't touch on Mr Oswald's whereabouts at and around the time of the assassination.

The Coke issue first surfaced when Fritz confronted Lee with Officer Baker's report that he had encountered Lee in the second floor lunchroom about 90 seconds AFTER the shots were fired.

Officer Baker gave no such report on 11/22/63.

According to Hosty's notes ( see above)  After buying the coke, Lee went downstairs and ate his lunch before going outside to watch the P. Parade.  There was no parade to watch five minutes after Baker encountered Lee In the second floor lunchroom.

You're on the brink of an actual insight here, Mr Cakebread, but I won't hold my breath...

[Walt Cakebread]

That's merely because we don't have the complete set of contemporaneous notes------Agent Hosty only allowed one page to be made public, a page that doesn't touch on Mr Oswald's whereabouts at and around the time of the assassination.

Officer Baker gave no such report on 11/22/63.

You're on the brink of an actual insight here, Mr Cakebread, but I won't hold my breath...

Here ya go Mr Ford....YOU posted the notes.....Notice that Hosty wrote..." On 11/22 at 3:15 pm LHO was interviewed by capt. W. Fritz, JWB & JPH .   Capt. Fritz advised O of his rights etc:"

Hosty also writes about the purchase of the coke.....  That information didn't surface until officer Baker returned to DPD headquarters much later that afternoon....    Hosty is lying about this info being discussed in the 3:15 interrogation.

[Alan Ford]

Here ya go Mr Ford....YOU posted the notes.....Notice that Hosty wrote..." On 11/22 at 3:15 pm LHO was interviewed by capt. W. Fritz, JWB & JPH .   Capt. Fritz advised O of his rights etc:"

These are the contemporaneous notes I was talking about, Mr Cakebread----------

Hosty also writes about the purchase of the coke.....  That information didn't surface until officer Baker returned to DPD headquarters much later that afternoon....    Hosty is lying about this info being discussed in the 3:15 interrogation.

Heavens, talk about tortured logic!

[Walt Cakebread]

These are the contemporaneous notes I was talking about, Mr Cakebread----------



Heavens, talk about tortured logic!

These are the contemporaneous notes I was talking about, Mr Cakebread----------



Yes, I know, Mr Ford....And you'll notice that Hosty says NOTHING about a coke in those notes which he scribbled DURING the initial interrogation session which started at about 3:15 pm that afternoon.  But in the other notes he says that Lee said that he went to the second floor lunchroom to get a coke and then he went down to the first floor and ate his lunch before going out to watch the P. parade ....     

We know that the coke issue surfaced later that afternoon AFTER officer Baker returned to headquarters and he told Fritz that he had encountered Lee in the second floor lunch room just seconds after the shots were fired and he was calmly drinking a coke.   Whether Lee was actually drinking the coke or merely had it in his hands isn't important....( Baker or Fritz, probably embroidered that tidbit about Lee "calmly drinking a coke" to make Lee appear to be a cold unemotional killer) ...The point is Hosty couldn't have wrote about the coke until after 5:00pm ....  And the salient point is:.....If Lee took the coke downstairs to consume with his lunch BEFORE going outside then there was NO DAMNED P. PARADE for Lee to Watch.....because the parade had long since broken up and disbursed..

[Walt Cakebread]

These are the contemporaneous notes I was talking about, Mr Cakebread----------



Yes, I know, Mr Ford....And you'll notice that Hosty says NOTHING about a coke in those notes which he scribbled DURING the initial interrogation session which started at about 3:15 pm that afternoon.  But in the other notes he says that Lee said that he went to the second floor lunchroom to get a coke and then he went down to the first floor and ate his lunch before going out to watch the P. parade ....     

We know that the coke issue surfaced later that afternoon AFTER officer Baker returned to headquarters and he told Fritz that he had encountered Lee in the second floor lunch room just seconds after the shots were fired and he was calmly drinking a coke.   Whether Lee was actually drinking the coke or merely had it in his hands isn't important....( Baker or Fritz, probably embroidered that tidbit about Lee "calmly drinking a coke" to make Lee appear to be a cold unemotional killer) ...The point is Hosty couldn't have wrote about the coke until after 5:00pm ....  And the salient point is:.....If Lee took the coke downstairs to consume with his lunch BEFORE going outside then there was NO DAMNED P. PARADE for Lee to Watch.....because the parade had long since broken up and disbursed..

These notes contain a wealth of information .....  Anybody interested in discussing them one item at a time?

[Alan Ford]

Yes, I know, Mr Ford....And you'll notice that Hosty says NOTHING about a coke in those notes which he scribbled DURING the initial interrogation session which started at about 3:15 pm that afternoon.  But in the other notes he says that Lee said that he went to the second floor lunchroom to get a coke and then he went down to the first floor and ate his lunch before going out to watch the P. parade ....

Exactly----the draft report which he wrote out by hand on the back of a blank DPD affidavit sheet (and we only have one sheet here, not the full document) contained high-priority information, including naturally Mr Oswald's bombshell alibi claim about visiting the second floor lunchroom before the P. Parade, then going down to one, then going out to watch the P. Parade. This draft report never made it into the official record. Instead, we get a) a fudged account of Mr Oswald's words in the Bookhout/Hosty joint report, then b) a completely distorted version of Mr Oswald's true claim in the Bookhout-only report.

We know that the coke issue surfaced later that afternoon AFTER officer Baker returned to headquarters and he told Fritz that he had encountered Lee in the second floor lunch room just seconds after the shots were fired and he was calmly drinking a coke.

No. We know only that
a) Officer Baker gave an affidavit that early afternoon in which he recalled encountering a man "walking away from the stairway" on the "third or fourth floor" (no lunchroom incident)
b) DPD were telling press that day that Mr Oswald was challenged by an officer at the front entrance to the building just after the shooting

Whether Lee was actually drinking the coke or merely had it in his hands isn't important....( Baker or Fritz, probably embroidered that tidbit about Lee "calmly drinking a coke" to make Lee appear to be a cold unemotional killer) ...The point is Hosty couldn't have wrote about the coke until after 5:00pm ....

Of course he could have---because he had heard Mr Oswald tell Captain Fritz all about it in that first interrogation (the only interrogation which Agent Hosty attended).

And the salient point is:.....If Lee took the coke downstairs to consume with his lunch BEFORE going outside then there was NO DAMNED P. PARADE for Lee to Watch.....because the parade had long since broken up and disbursed..

Exactly----that's why Mr Oswald's actual claim (as recorded in Agent Hosty's draft report) had to be twisted into the absurd claim we find in the Bookhout-Hosty joint report. They buried the man's alibi claim---------and his alibi.

[Alan Ford]

Friends, here is how Officer Baker in his 11/22/63 affidavit described the man he encountered "walking away from the stairway" on "the third or fourth floor":

========> "The man I saw was a white man approximately 30 years old, 5'9", 165 pounds, dark hair and wearing a light brown jacket"

And here is what we learn in a 9 Jan '64 FBI internal memo about the true source of the suspect description put out by DPD shortly after the shooting:

========> "An unidentified individual told Inspector SAWYER that he had seen an individual run from the TSBD building shortly after the shooting of President KENNEDY and that this individual was an unknown white male, approximately 30, slender build, 5'10", 165 pounds, carrying what looked to be a 30:30 or some type of Winchester rifle."

Hands up who thinks the uncanny similarity between the two descriptions is a coincidence!