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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #672 on: December 22, 2020, 12:25:20 PM »
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It looks like a forearm imo, which is the left arm and if you can identify anything that is reflecting light at the wrist area, then it could be Oswalds shiny bracelet he wore on his Left hand as indicated in a photo of him in handcuffs

Right arm, with soda bottle in hand

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #673 on: December 22, 2020, 09:38:44 PM »
Is this image-----broadcast the evening of the assassination-----the closest the American public has ever come to seeing what the original Altgens 6 showed?


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #674 on: December 22, 2020, 10:38:13 PM »
In a nutshell, I believe this is the right arm (and coke) of Prayer Man---------------



---------------who just after this steps back (and up) into the shadows, where he will show up in Wiegman------------------



-----------------and, a little later, Darnell-------------------



The reason for the fake shadow down Mr Lovelady in Wiegman is to be found in Altgens: the Oswald-Did-It 'investigators' needed folks to believe Mr Lovelady had his sleeves rolled up in order to pass off what they knew to be Prayer Man's unsleeved right arm in Altgens as Mr Lovelady's unsleeved left arm.

Obviously, they only went to this trouble because Prayer Man = Mr Lee Harvey Oswald, the suspect who truthfully claimed to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade" after buying a coke in the second floor lunchroom.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #675 on: December 22, 2020, 10:48:25 PM »
Good evening,

First, before addressing Mr. O'meara's response to me in reply #670, certainly admire & respect the respective contributions of Mr. Clements, Mr. Plant and Mr. Ford within this thread. Well done gentlemen...way to go!

That said, out of respect for Mr. Ford's ongoing concentrated efforts/focus upon the shadow running along Mr. Lovelady's arm and what it may mean, I'll be brief in my response to Mr. O'meara and encourage him--if he agrees--to table his response until the discussion regarding  the shadow running alongside Mr. Lovelady's arm is adequately and thoroughly given the attention it deserves.

That said ---->

Good evening Mr. Ford

You must surely be aware of the Stroud Document which contains a reference to Dorothy Garner seeing Truly and a policeman coming up the stairs. As we now have the evidence you seek we can conclude the ascent of Truly and Baker did happen
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Yes, of course, I am aware of the Stroud Document. However, seems you left out a few key details: (A) Mrs. Garner shared that she indeed saw Roy Truly several times that afternoon, but--her words not mine--do not recall precisely when; and, (B) note she said on one of those occasions when she saw Roy Truly she saw him accompanied by a policeman (the problem here is she does Not specifically detail Marrion Baker as that policeman).

Given all we know about this dear lady's attention to time & details (read Victoria Adams' critique of her keen boss), it's safe to come to the conclusion that IF it were Marrion Baker she would have said so. Moreover, IF it that policeman had been Marrion Baker she would have had the full advantage of four decades prior to her interview to have become familiar with him and Roy Truly's fictitious tale about their dash together up those backstairs. Even with that advantage, she did Not specifically name Baker as the policeman at that interval of the few times--her words, not mine--that she saw Roy truly that afternoon post assassination.

Again, Mr. O'meara, I'm willing to defer to the gentleman (Mr. Ford) already on the floor opening the discussion up further on the shadow running alongside Mr. Lovelady's arm: and, ask that you & I table our discussion for a later interval. That said, best wishes to all for a safe, happy & healthy holiday season right into the new year.
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #676 on: December 24, 2020, 02:55:36 AM »
It almost appears like the forearm (and hand) of the young black man at the lower west corner of the entrance steps, his hand raised up to shade his eyes as he is looking upwards at the facade of the TSBD

However, one must then question? Why this arm would be masked over with more of the grid pattern shirt of Lovelady added in the next versions of Altgens 6 photo.

It’s as though the earliest version of Althems was a rather sloppy 1st attempt at masking out whomever it was momentarily between the black man at the lower west corner and Lovelady on the steps behind.




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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #677 on: December 25, 2020, 02:49:59 AM »

The reason for the fake shadow down Mr Lovelady in Wiegman is to be found in Altgens: the Oswald-Did-It 'investigators' needed folks to believe Mr Lovelady had his sleeves rolled up in order to pass off what they knew to be Prayer Man's unsleeved right arm in Altgens as Mr Lovelady's unsleeved left arm.

Obviously, they only went to this trouble because Prayer Man = Mr Lee Harvey Oswald, the suspect who truthfully claimed to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade" after buying a coke in the second floor lunchroom.


 :D :D :D
In terms of fantastical Mr Ford fantasia this is next level.

Just for a laugh please explain how the investigating authorities knew it was Oswald's arm and, more importantly, why they would imagine anyone else would suspect it was Oswald's arm?


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #678 on: December 25, 2020, 08:38:45 AM »
:D :D :D
In terms of fantastical Mr Ford fantasia this is next level.

Just for a laugh please explain how the investigating authorities knew it was Oswald's arm and, more importantly, why they would imagine anyone else would suspect it was Oswald's arm?

Mr Oswald, in custody, told them exactly where he had been at the time of the shot. They established very quickly that he was telling the truth. The giveaway in Altgens? The bottle in the hand.

While you're there, Mr O'Meara-------how's your work on a non-fantastical explanation for the shadow down Mr Lovelady in Wiegman coming along? Your last communique on the subject was hilariously clueless!



Bottom line: until you, or anyone else in Team Keep LHO Away From Them Steps, can credibly explain this ridiculous shadow as a natural phenomenon, your claim that those front steps were not a site of enormous concern to the 'investigators' remains without foundation.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #679 on: December 27, 2020, 02:18:10 AM »
I’m trying to envision how PM , while holding a bottle of Soda ( 1963 Dr. Pepper bottle with the solid white oval shaped logo?) , would move down far enough to the lower step next to black guy, and how PM would hold his bottle as he peeks around the corner.

IMO, he would use his RIGHT hand up against the west wall to stabilize himself  as he moves down a step or 2 while holding the bottle in his LEFT hand