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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #648 on: December 15, 2020, 10:19:40 AM »
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The reasons:

1. Pauline Sanders locates Stanton (at least for some segment of time,) as located beside herself on the east side of the landing. However , there does not appear to be a fat lady next to Sanders in the Couch and Wiegman film frames

It is doubtful that the fat lady would have remained blocking the front door, and therefore opted to move to another position from which she would be less an obstacle plus also have a better LOS to at least the corner of Houston and Elm St.

2. Pauline Sanders FBI statement includes reference to seeing Baker, while Sarah has no such statement. If Sarah was still standing beside Pauline (hence in front of  the door) its questionable how Stanton could have missed Baker running virtually right into her. Would not Stanton have included this observation in her FBI statement just as Pauline did, if such sighting of Baker did occur?

3. Prayerblob height is approx 5’3” per John Mytton’s analysis in another lengthy thread. Sarah Stanton is allegedly not taller than 5’4”.

4. Sarah Stanton has not been absolutely identified as on of the other women visible in the Weigman and Couch Film or Altgens no. 6 photo

5. Mr Fords proposition that white shirt person shading their eyes (to the right of Billy ) is Sarah Stanton?  Is doubtful per reasons such as  A. skinny forearms and  B. location having LOS to JFK after passing by TSBD entrance, in contrast to Sarah Stanton  statement inferring her LOS was blocked after the limo passed.

LOL. Not one of the above arguments holds water, Mr Mason. But the fact that Ms Stanton is still the contorted best that Team Keep LHO Off Them Front Steps can come up with by way of alternative candidate for Prayer Man tells us just how much trouble Team Keep LHO Off Them Front Steps is in.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #648 on: December 15, 2020, 10:19:40 AM »


Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #649 on: December 15, 2020, 12:11:18 PM »
Easy peasy, Mr O'Meara!

Who created the 2FLRE Hoax? Looks like SA Nat Pinkston played a key role.
Who directed the 2FLRE Hoax? See above!
Who is involved? Officer Baker, Mr Truly and Mrs Reid: pressurized into playing along. Key 'investigators' (i.e. cover-up merchants) in FBI, DPD and SS agreed on 2FLRE as least worst damage-limitation strategy-------limiting the damage caused, of course, by the fact that a) Mr Oswald had had his encounter with Officer Baker/Mr Truly at the front entrance; b) Officer Baker/Mr Truly had subsequently encountered a different man walking away from the rear stairway 'on the third or fourth floor'.

Now! Do let us know when you are in a position to

---------------------find a credible alternative candidate for Prayer Man

---------------------explain the ridiculous shadow down Mr Lovelady's right side in Wiegman

---------------------explain away the suppression (for over five decades) of Mr Oswald's claim to have visited the second-floor lunchroom for a coke BEFORE going "outside to watch P. Parade".

So far you haven't done any better on any of these than the original Mr Doyle did!

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What role did Pinkston play? What do you have to back this assertion up? (or is this more Ford Fantasia)
How do you explain Karen Westbrook Scranton's account of Mrs Reid telling the girls about seeing LHO with a coke in his hand while they were all "milling around" in the immediate aftermath of the assassination?
(29:20 in the interview below)


"a credible alternative candidate for Prayer Man"

Stanton is a thousand times more credible than Oswald.
There is zero credibility to suggest it's Oswald (no matter how much you fraudulently fake the evidence to support your ridiculous claim)

"explain the ridiculous shadow down Mr Lovelady's right side in Wiegman"

I didn't realise this needed explaining.
Do you believe it's an attempt to hide someone? Do tell

"explain away the suppression (for over five decades) of Mr Oswald's claim to have visited the second-floor lunchroom for a coke BEFORE going "outside to watch P. Parade"."

Who is claiming he went for a coke AFTER going outside to watch the "parade"?
More importantly, isn't LHO getting a coke from the 2FLR part of the elaborate Hoax? Isn't this a detail made up by the Hoaxers?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #650 on: December 15, 2020, 07:44:18 PM »
More importantly, isn't LHO getting a coke from the 2FLR part of the elaborate Hoax? Isn't this a detail made up by the Hoaxers?

I'll type this real slow, Mr O'Meara, so you have a chance of keeping up:

The 2FLRE hoax was developed---by the 'investigating' authorities, after the assassination---on the basis of a real visit by Mr Oswald, before the assassination, to the second floor lunchroom for a coke.

The reason you're still obsessing over 2010 talking points is that you still can't find a credible alternative candidate for Prayer Man, you still can't explain the shadow down Mr Lovelady's side in Wiegman, and you're still in denial about Mr Oswald's claim to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade". You're as tragically lost as the original Mr Doyle was!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #650 on: December 15, 2020, 07:44:18 PM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #651 on: December 16, 2020, 01:11:00 AM »
I'll type this real slow, Mr O'Meara, so you have a chance of keeping up:

The 2FLRE hoax was developed---by the 'investigating' authorities, after the assassination---on the basis of a real visit by Mr Oswald, before the assassination, to the second floor lunchroom for a coke.

The reason you're still obsessing over 2010 talking points is that you still can't find a credible alternative candidate for Prayer Man, you still can't explain the shadow down Mr Lovelady's side in Wiegman, and you're still in denial about Mr Oswald's claim to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade". You're as tragically lost as the original Mr Doyle was!

As I thought - evasion.
Explain Westbrook Scranton's recollection of Mrs Reid claiming to see LHO with a coke in hand. Reid was claiming this within an hour of the assassination.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #652 on: December 16, 2020, 01:58:55 AM »

The 2FLRE hoax was developed---by the 'investigating' authorities, after the assassination---on the basis of a real visit by Mr Oswald, before the assassination, to the second floor lunchroom for a coke.


Explain this:

The 11/24/63 report on Oswald's interrogation by Special Agent Bookhout contains the following:

"Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book
Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building,
having just purchased a Coca-Cola from the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer
came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present
and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and
continued through the building.
Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor
and stood around and had lunch in the employees’ lunch room."

Why does Oswald have a coke in this version of the 'hoax' but it disappears by the time Baker and Truly testify before the WC?

You say Nat Pinkston was involved, what do you have to back this up?
You say the hoax was developed by "the 'investigating' authorities, after the assassination". What do you have to back this up?

More Fantasia.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #652 on: December 16, 2020, 01:58:55 AM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #653 on: December 16, 2020, 02:38:52 AM »
If PM is Oswald, why did not the conspirators blacken out that west corner using the same whatever black masking that is alleged by Mr. Ford to be creating a shadow on the side of Lovelady!


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #654 on: December 16, 2020, 10:41:19 AM »
If PM is Oswald, why did not the conspirators blacken out that west corner using the same whatever black masking that is alleged by Mr. Ford to be creating a shadow on the side of Lovelady!

What a great question.

Add that to the list of questions you're going to have to avoid Mr Ford.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #654 on: December 16, 2020, 10:41:19 AM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #655 on: December 16, 2020, 10:55:32 AM »
Here's a challenge for all of you who believe the 2FLRE was a hoax.

In proposing the Hoax you are proposing something 'real'. It must have been created by someone - who was it created by? Who is orchestrating the Hoax? It must have participants - who is involved in the Hoax and to what extent?
How did the Hoax come into being?
What is the timeline for it?

You have reached into thin air and pulled out a new reality called the 2FLRE Hoax. Defend it. Prove it exists as a thing in it's own right.
If you believe in the 2FLRE Hoax don't just sit in the shadows waiting for these awkward questions to go away so you can just carry on believing it without any proof of it's reality.
Get your heads together.
Come up with something concrete.