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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #112 on: July 14, 2020, 01:04:47 AM »
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The West Survey does NOT show three points where JFK was hit. You're probably looking at a Robert Cutler production.
Well, actually, since the late Tom Purvis received and shared Mr. West's surveys, then no, I am not "probably looking at a Robert Cutler production".

The last two shots were at 4+65 and 4 +95.


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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #113 on: July 14, 2020, 01:16:35 AM »
The West Survey does NOT show three points where JFK was hit. You're probably looking at a Robert Cutler production.

I am not "probably looking at a Robert Cutler production".  ( Who's he?)
The late Tom Purvis met with Mr. West, and received copies of all his work.

Most importantly, Mr West, per instructions, surveyed in three locations. The final two were 4 + 65 and 4 + 95.

Also CE 875, the book of photographs, mentions photographs being taken every 25 ft., excepting 5+00, as this " was about four feet from impact of third shot".
So, 4+96. Or 4+95. Pretty close. Impact of third shot.
Second impact 4+65.

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #114 on: July 14, 2020, 06:50:59 AM »
Well, actually, since the late Tom Purvis received and shared Mr. West's surveys, then no, I am not "probably looking at a Robert Cutler production".

The last two shots were at 4+65 and 4 +95.

Surveys? I have the West Survey, dated  May 31,1964. There are no markings on it indicating shots at 4+65 or 4+95. You are referring to an altered version of the West Survey. Perhaps one altered by Purvis himself.

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #115 on: July 14, 2020, 06:55:10 AM »

Surveys? I have the West Survey, dated  May 31,1964. There are no markings on it indicating shots at 4+65 or 4+95. You are referring to an altered version of the West Survey. Perhaps one altered by Purvis himself.

Obviously, the one Tim has is a forgery and the one that John has is real. 😊

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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #116 on: July 14, 2020, 05:44:53 PM »
Surveys? I have the West Survey, dated  May 31,1964. There are no markings on it indicating shots at 4+65 or 4+95. You are referring to an altered version of the West Survey. Perhaps one altered by Purvis himself.
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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #118 on: July 17, 2020, 05:06:08 PM »
It should be pointed out that a shot fired from a lower floor of the Dal-Tex Building could have narrowly missed JFK and gone on to strike the curb near Tague. A number of witnesses believed a shot or two came from the Dal-Tex Building, and, interestingly enough, a reenactment done with lasers in Dealey Plaza in 1999 found that one of the acknowledged hits on Kennedy could be traced back to a lower floor of the Dal-Tex Building. A miss from the first, second, or third floor of the Dal-Tex Building is far more plausible candidate for the cause of the curb mark than a shot from the TSBD. Just look at these photos:



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Re: The Wounding of James Tague Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #119 on: July 21, 2020, 07:55:26 PM »
It should be noted that when the Dallas Morning News published one of Tom Dillard’s photos of the Tague curb scar, it gave the photo the caption “Concrete Scar," and the narrative under the photo said,

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A detective points to a chip in the curb. . . .  A bullet strike from the rifle that took President Kennedy’s life apparently caused the hole. (Dallas Morning News, 11/23/1963, in Gerald McKnight, Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why, University Press of Kansas, 2015 edition, p. 118)

“Concrete scar,” “chip in the curb, “the hole.” So the editors who viewed the photos did not see a “smear” but a “scar,” “chip,” and “hole.”

Moreover, the first two FBI reports that mentioned the Tague incident corroborated this description. The FBI report on the FBI interview with Tague quoted him as saying that when he looked around on the curb near him, he saw "there was a chip missing" (McKnight, Breach of Trust, p. 119). And in the Dallas FBI field office's report on the assassination, SA Gemberling said that "one bullet . . . crashed into a curb and struck Jim Tague" (Ibid.).
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