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If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?
Thomas Graves:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on June 14, 2020, 11:16:55 PM ---Dear Tom,
It was the avoidance of any sort of critique I was taking as a compliment ;)
If LHO was the Lone Assassin he would have taken the shot on Houston for two reasons:
1) A shot taken as the limo is approaching the turn onto Elm is an almost guaranteed head shot for anyone familiar with a rifle.
2) It requires a different position in the snipers nest. The shot up Elm requires the shooter to force himself into a corner and have the rifle out of the window. A shot on Houston could be taken from further inside the building. The shooter has plenty of space behind him to move into. No need to be at the window and, therefore, no chance of being spotted before you take the single, easy head shot.
I'm sure you'll agree a shot onto Houston from within the building would have been a snipers choice of shot.
I'll try one last time - why do you think Oswald ran when he had an 'alibi' and knew he would be making himself a prime suspect?
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Dear Dan,
1) We agree to disagree. Okay?
2) Gosh, maybe he didn't think his "alibi" was strong enough?
Maybe he thought his KGB handler would be waiting for him at the Texas Theater in about an hour-and-a-half?
Maybe he wanted to get home quickly because, you know know how it is, a boy likes to carry a revolver around with him?
Beats the heck out of me.
-- MWT ;)
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on June 14, 2020, 08:56:41 PM ---The reason for taking the shot on Houston is that it's a far easier shot (you surely agree with this)..............
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I don't know where you get your guesses from but the shot at an approaching Limo is in fact much harder.
1. As the Limo turns into Houston the Limo is in the sight for a fraction of a second and recentering after a miss is a pain in the Bahookie.
2. As the Limo travels further down Houston and gets closer to the TSBD, the time for a shot gets progressively less.
3. When the Limo is passing directly by the TSBD, the increased angular velocity is at it's maximum so you can completely forget about the "closest" shot.
4. Which leaves us with the shot as the Limo travels down Elm being the easiest simply because of the incline and the direction of the Limo means that at this angle the Limo stays in the sights the longest and if Oswald misses reacquiring the target is much easier. It's all just simple physics.
JohnM
Dan O'meara:
Dear John,
Thanks for the fantastic analysis of that particular point. trying to visualise it doesn't reveal how much tracking is needed for the Houston shot but the graphics make it clear. I stand corrected on which was the most difficult shot. It'd be good to hear more from you as a lot of the posts on this thread are like the one that precedes yours.
There are still many points about Oswald's behaviour that day which seem confusing - why he ran, why he was carrying ID that tied him to the weapon etc. - and it would be refreshing to hear some sensible views on this and much more.
Thomas Graves:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on June 15, 2020, 12:14:13 AM ---Dear John,
Thanks for the fantastic analysis of that particular point. trying to visualise it doesn't reveal how much tracking is needed for the Houston shot but the graphics make it clear. I stand corrected on which was the most difficult shot. It'd be good to hear more from you as a lot of the posts on this thread are like the one that precedes yours.
There are still many points about Oswald's behaviour that day which seem confusing - why he ran, why he was carrying ID that tied him to the weapon etc. - and it would be refreshing to hear some sensible views on this and much more.
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Dear Dan,
Two other possibilities as to why Oswald "blew his perfect alibi" by ... "running away":
1) Maybe he just wanted to get the heck out of there.
2) Maybe he realized that he already had a lone wolf/ anti-social reputation with the TSBD employees and that he might stick out like a sore thumb if he did hang around and try to be "inquisitive" / "shocked" / "concerned", especially if anyone said, "Hey, Lee. Where were YOU when the shooting started? Did you see anything suspicious?"
Etc.
Regarding John Mytton's analysis: I agree, but would add that although the shot right after the "hairpin" turn and just before the limo disappeared behind the tree wouldn't be a particularly easy one, it would be worth taking from a solo assassin's point of view.
I believe Oswald did so, and that it was at about 1.4 seconds before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133.
-- MWT ;)
John Iacoletti:
--- Quote from: Richard Smith on June 14, 2020, 02:18:14 PM ---Oswald was a reasonably intelligent person. He may have had mental issues but he was not delusional. As a result, he understood that the act of assassinating the President of the United States in broad daylight in the presence of law enforcement entailed his own death or arrest. There was no escaping from that act. That doesn't mean, as some CTers stupidly suggest, that Oswald would have just sat down and waited to be arrested because he had no realistic hope of getting away. He did what most criminals do. He kept moving and played out his hand for as long as he could. He had nothing to lose by doing that. Perhaps he entertained some fantasy of reaching Cuba via Mexico and seeking asylum from Castro but the fact that Oswald left most of his money with Marina that morning lends itself to the conclusion that he expected to be arrested or killed.
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Cool story, bro.
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