Were Jim Garrison And Oliver Stone Taken In By KGB Disinformation?

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Offline Richard Rubio

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Re: Were Jim Garrison And Oliver Stone Taken In By KGB Disinformation?
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2020, 01:45:21 AM »
Nothing greatly coincidental or anything here, but we had our spring cleanup in early April, I didn't want to get rid of stuff really but I did figure, it was now time to get rid of some of my videos,  so out went my copies of "JFK", "13 Days" and "Wallace", well people curb pick during that time of year,  I helped this one fellow with packing some things into his truck including an '80s video game which was really bulky. Well we got to talking and it turns out, this guy was a Freedom Rider back in the day or at least, that's what he told me and I believed him but the timeline threw me off a little,  according to wikipedia, the movement dates to 1961 I guess.   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Riders

And he said his VCR(s) worked still... so out went quite a few videos including "Gladiator" which is pretty entertaining.



So, I think my videos went to a good place...  "13 days" is sort of a slow moving movie to me, didn't really captivate me but my knowledge on the Cuban Missile Crisis is the basics. The actors certainly were top rate.

I've got to say too, my used copy of "13 days" was during the time, DVDs were coming into style, I never got to watch it enough, maybe 2 or 3 times. I wish I had watched it more. I guess, I was a bit busy.

General Lemay is in "13 days", he was quite a character. I know he is probably looked at as "Wallace's running mate" in 1968, but Lemay was actually quite important in World War II in the South Pacific. So, quite an interesting individual again, I do not know a lot about but the basics.
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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Were Jim Garrison And Oliver Stone Taken In By KGB Disinformation?
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2020, 02:04:12 AM »
Were Jim Garrison and Oliver Stone taken in by KGB disinformation?

It sure looks that way to me.

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/fall_winter_2001/article02.html#_ftnref70

--  MWT  ;)

Yep, America is full of gullible people, and the jerks like Garrison and Stone who prey on them in their striving to be in the limelight and /or to make a buck, not caring how much damage they do to our psyche and our body politic along the way.

The "KGB" has ben taking advantage of us through these jackals for a long, long time, indeed.

--  MWT  ;)
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Offline Richard Rubio

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Re: Were Jim Garrison And Oliver Stone Taken In By KGB Disinformation?
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2020, 02:10:37 AM »
Stone's like Pink Floyd's Roger Waters IMHO... yes, they may make some good money, this pertaining really to Stone and not Waters that much but I think they are both "ideologues".... I'm sure others fit the bill too.   All this just my opinion....

Is one curious about a website both of these two actually recommends, for news that is ? It's "Gray Zone" where Max Blumenthal is one of their main writers.   Blumenthal might even be a founder.

Blumenthal:  https://thegrayzone.com/author/max-blumenthal/

Home page:  https://thegrayzone.com/

Not my cup of tea.....

And I can dig up information as to why I say they both recommend this website.

They are "ideologues", but it's not to say they have the same outlooks... at least, I've never heard of Stone being for BDS (Boycott, Diviest, Sanction Israel) as Waters is for.

Stone is a combat vet from Vietnam. So, he's gained respect of many, even if they disagree with him.

He has the movie over the old Yugoslavian war, "Saviour", he is a bit imho,  more positive about the Serbian side, then, he did that movie "Salvador"... anyway, I'm not going to analyze everything he's done.
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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Were Jim Garrison And Oliver Stone Taken In By KGB Disinformation?
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2020, 01:19:33 AM »
Stone's like Pink Floyd's Roger Waters IMHO... yes, they may make some good money, this pertaining really to Stone and not Waters that much but I think they are both "ideologues".... I'm sure others fit the bill too.   All this just my opinion....

Is one curious about a website both of these two actually recommends, for news that is ? It's "Gray Zone" where Max Blumenthal is one of their main writers.   Blumenthal might even be a founder.

Blumenthal:  https://thegrayzone.com/author/max-blumenthal/

Home page:  https://thegrayzone.com/

Not my cup of tea.....

And I can dig up information as to why I say they both recommend this website.

They are "ideologues", but it's not to say they have the same outlooks... at least, I've never heard of Stone being for BDS (Boycott, Diviest, Sanction Israel) as Waters is for.

Stone is a combat vet from Vietnam. So, he's gained respect of many, even if they disagree with him.

He has the movie over the old Yugoslavian war, "Saviour", he is a bit imho,  more positive about the Serbian side, then, he did that movie "Salvador"... anyway, I'm not going to analyze everything he's done.

Richard,

Ever considered getting into Performance Art, or Gonzo Journalism?

Regardless, if you need a job and are feeling particularly "patriotic," there's probably a position just waiting for you at RT and/or the Saint Petersburg (Russia) Internet Research Agency.

--  MWT  ;)
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