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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #72 on: May 13, 2020, 02:55:45 PM »
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Oswald denied bringing curtain rods to work.

Nope! According to the very people who suppressed Mr Oswald's claim that he "went outside to watch the P. parade", Mr Oswald denied bringing curtain rods to work.

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #73 on: May 13, 2020, 04:11:34 PM »
Seems to me Oswald carried the package in such a way so as to reduce its profile:

> By his side as he walked out in the open to Randle's house
> Out in front—feasibly*—as he walked ahead of Buell towards the TSBD


*Buell said he only saw about a 9" sliver of the bag as Oswald walked ahead
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Offline Gerry Down

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #74 on: May 13, 2020, 04:38:13 PM »
"went outside to watch the P. parade"

How did this info come into the public domain? Shouldn't Hosty have published this in his book back in 1995?

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #75 on: May 13, 2020, 04:53:59 PM »
Again, Oswald himself denied carrying any long package.  So unless you begin with the premise that Oswald lied it doesn't really matter what Frazier said.  To cling to Frazier's estimate as being absolutely precise entails needing to explain why Oswald denied carrying any such package.  If it didn't contain the rifle because it was too short per Frazier, then why does Oswald lie about it?  This where the kooks stick their head in the sand and make claims like there is no recording of the Oswald's interrogation.  The old impossible standard of proof trick where any evidence they can't rebut is rejected as the product of lies or fakery - but without any evidence of such.  The great circle of lunacy that allows them to make an allegation, not support it with any logical explanation, and then wave away evidence to the contrary as a product of the frame up.

So desperate to fit a broken down rifle into a bag that's too small, when they can't even get beyond assuming that there was a rifle in Ruth Paine's garage on 11/21/63 and/or that it was the same rifle that was found at the TSBD.

And then he calls people who question his assumptions "kooks".... Too funny.

This where the kooks stick their head in the sand and make claims like there is no recording of the Oswald's interrogation.  The old impossible standard of proof trick where any evidence they can't rebut is rejected as the product of lies or fakery - but without any evidence of such. 

As usual, you've got it backwards. When you claim Oswald said something during interrogation, you should be able to back it up. That's not an impossible standard of proof. Insisting that we should believe anything an interrogator tells us, is wanting to do away with any standard of proof. There is no evidence to rebut or reject. All there is are some reports written a week after the fact which contain conflicting information on some points. On proper cross-examination by an able defense lawyer those interrogators would be destroyed in an instance.

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #76 on: May 13, 2020, 07:00:28 PM »
Again, Oswald himself denied carrying any long package.

Again, this is "Richard Smith" disinformation.  What Fritz said was that Oswald "denied that he had brought the long package described by Mr. Frazier and his sister".  Not "any long package".  We don't know how Fritz characterized the "package described by Mr. Frazier and his sister".

The kooks are the ones who will jump through all sorts of hoops in order to get a rifle into a package that there is no evidence ever contained a rifle.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #77 on: May 13, 2020, 07:01:43 PM »
*Buell said he only saw about a 9" sliver of the bag as Oswald walked ahead

When did he say that?

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #78 on: May 13, 2020, 10:27:14 PM »
When did he say that?

A long, long time ago

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #79 on: May 13, 2020, 10:28:35 PM »
"went outside to watch the P. parade"

How did this info come into the public domain? Shouldn't Hosty have published this in his book back in 1995?

Yes, he certainly should have! Like the other parties to Mr Oswald's interrogation, he flat out lied to the public----------his unpublished handwritten interrogation notes prove it!

They came into the public domain thanks to the diligence of Mr Bart Kamp, who found them in Mr Malcolm Blunt's files:



The revelation came as a stunning point-for-point vindication of Mr Sean Murphy's 2013 conclusions as to what Mr Oswald had really told Captain Fritz.  Thumb1: