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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2020, 03:56:28 PM »
Thanking you kindly once again, Mr Speer! What a scream Shanklin's memo is ("Redlich has been over in Russia and is on the borderline"!).

'Something screwy' is an apt description of the shenanigans around the curtain rods! Your noting of the WC-FBI tensions around this time (second week of March) is very much on point------------we have a three man dance between SS (Agent Howlett), DPD (Lt. Day) and WC (Jenner). FBI nowhere to be seen. Although it is worth noting that this is the time they suddenly get all interested in a certain clipboard shown them back in December...

It beggars belief that no one in the FBI had thought to ask Ms Paine back in November whether any curtain rods were missing from her home. It would have surely been one of the very first questions they would want the answer to. Yet not a single mention of this crucial issue to be found in those early (or later) FBI reports.

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It beggars belief that no one in the FBI had thought to ask Ms Paine back in November whether any curtain rods were missing from her home.

Why would they ask?.....When they knew the curtain rod story was BS!

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2020, 04:29:34 PM »
It beggars belief that no one in the FBI had thought to ask Ms Paine back in November whether any curtain rods were missing from her home.

Why would they ask?.....When they knew the curtain rod story was BS!

Are you kidding, Mr Cakebread? They could tell the world about the curtain rods still in Ms Paine's garage--another of the commie's lies exposed!

But no. Up until the WC testimony taking in the Paine home in March 64, all we get on the matter is............. radio silence.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2020, 04:36:05 PM »
Are you kidding, Mr Cakebread? They could tell the world about the curtain rods still in Ms Paine's garage--another of the commie's lies exposed!

But no. Up until the WC testimony taking in the Paine home in March 64, all we get on the matter is............. radio silence.

They could tell the world about the curtain rods still in Ms Paine's garage-

I fail to see how that would have advanced the framing of Lee Oswald......  Simply because Ruthie had curtain rods in the garage wouldn't have meant much....Or am I missing something?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #38 on: May 11, 2020, 05:11:25 PM »
They could tell the world about the curtain rods still in Ms Paine's garage-

I fail to see how that would have advanced the framing of Lee Oswald......  Simply because Ruthie had curtain rods in the garage wouldn't have meant much....Or am I missing something?

Yes, you are! Curtain rods missing from the garage = unwelcome boost for Mr Oswald's (alleged) claim to Mr Frazier; no curtain rods missing = welcome boost for counterclaim that he lied to Mr Frazier.

And! Let's not forget that the WC built an entire (and otherwise totally unnecessary) testimony-taking session around the phoney 'finding' of two curtain rods in the Paine garage-------even rigging the thing so that they would land on the numbers 275 & 276. As Mr Speer says, something screwy here!

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2020, 06:13:57 PM »
When do you think the WC decided to call them '275 & 276', Mr Smith? And why those numbers? What was 'Ruth Paine Exhibit 1'?

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I've asked you a couple of very simple questions to test the veracity of your otherwise baseless theory that Oswald carried some curtain rods to work.  Thus far you have refused to even attempt to answer.  So once again:

1) Why would "Mr. Oswald" himself lie and deny that he carried curtain rods that day if he in fact had done so?  It would have aided his own cause to direct the DPD to that package as it would confirm that there was no rifle in it. 

2) Why would the authorities who you believe are otherwise involved in a frame up that includes denying that he carried any curtain rods suddenly, on their own motion, months after Oswald's death bring those curtain rods to light, test them for Oswald's prints (the same guy they are trying to frame by denying he carried any curtain rods!), and document all this on a form? 

3) Who found these curtain rods at the TSBD and how have they been kept quiet?

The narrative you have concocted makes absolutely no sense.  Both Oswald and his alleged framers are acting contrary to their own self interest in this fairy tale. 

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2020, 07:31:37 PM »
I've asked you a couple of very simple questions to test the veracity of your otherwise baseless theory that Oswald carried some curtain rods to work.  Thus far you have refused to even attempt to answer.

Oh Mr Smith, you old rascal--------I was waiting for you to offer a meaningful answer to the question I asked you first:

Where did the numbers 275 and 276 come from?

'From the WC' doesn't cut it-------you need to explain when and why those specific numbers were assigned.

Can you do that? Or would you prefer to deflect and run away again?

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1) Why would "Mr. Oswald" himself lie and deny that he carried curtain rods that day if he in fact had done so?

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What a terrible waste of your first question, Mr Smith!

We don't know that Mr Oswald did in fact deny it. I am proposing that he didn't. Prove my proposition wrong!

Now! If you answer my question, I'll happily move on to your second one. Hopefully it won't be so garbage-based as your first one!  Thumb1:

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2020, 07:57:26 PM »
Oh Mr Smith, you old rascal--------I was waiting for you to offer a meaningful answer to the question I asked you first:

Where did the numbers 275 and 276 come from?

'From the WC' doesn't cut it-------you need to explain when and why those specific numbers were assigned.

Can you do that? Or would you prefer to deflect and run away again?

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What a terrible waste of your first question, Mr Smith!

We don't know that Mr Oswald did in fact deny it. I am proposing that he didn't. Prove my proposition wrong!

Now! If you answer my question, I'll happily move on to your second one. Hopefully it won't be so garbage-based as your first one!  Thumb1:

would you prefer to deflect defecate and run away again?