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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Don't get bit.....
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2020, 06:13:54 PM »
Good afternoon, Mr. Cakebread

Remember reading some of your interesting & insightful post back in 2014 when I made my initial foray into JFK Assassination Research. Given that you have some time on your hands at the moment, this would be an ideal time to ask you a few questions and get your feedback.

Q1: Given the times of the day, Do you believe the Coloured TSBD workers in that Jim Crow era would withhold any key evidence contrary to the findings of the Warren Commission? Could they be prone to the conditions of that era to simply parrot back whatever the authorities wanted to hear?

Q2: With Q1 in mind, given that it has now been revealed—albeit many years later—that the wrongly accused from his vantage point downstairs on the first-floor actually saw James “Junior” Jarman re-enter the building from the rear as late as 12:25PM,
nowhere near the front of the building, let alone six stories up lurking in a window far removed from the rear of the building, awaiting President Kennedy’s arrival, Do you think/believe James “Junior” Jarman knew which way the wind was blowing as he parroted back what officialdom wanted to hear? 

Q3: What is your personal take on the gunsmoke seen by multiple eyewitness some 100 yards down Elm Street that afternoon, nowhere near a gun discharge from the sixth floor? and the subsequent smell of gunpowder-smell emanating soon afterwards? ---->

http://jfkact.org/?p=940

Lastly, Q4 and a Thank You in advance for your time today. Does this sound like a deranged, pathetic loser as others try to portray him seeking his glorified 15 minutes of fame? ---->


Did you catch what he said there, Mr. Cakebread at, quote, “I don’t even know what I’m here for”… that’s a very telling statement. The wrongly accused was frame. He didn’t shoot anybody. Anybody.

Hi Alan, I appreciate that you value my opinion and views....

Q1: Given the times of the day, Do you believe the Coloured TSBD workers in that Jim Crow era would withhold any key evidence contrary to the findings of the Warren Commission? Could they be prone to the conditions of that era to simply parrot back whatever the authorities wanted to hear?


Alan , I feel very sure that the colored employees who worked for Roy Truly had been raised in the era of segregation and  "White Supremacy "., and It is a fact that Roy Truly referred to the colored men as "boys"  and "his ni------"    I'm totally convinced that the young colored men, simply cringed when questioned by the police and FBI agents.    There are many photos of Bonnie Ray Williams in custody that afternoon, and he appears as the epitome of a terrorized young man.    There's not an iota of doubt in my mind that he would have said whatever he thought those authorities wanted to hear....And the same is true of Harold Norman,  But Norman was even worse that Williams....In the fact that Harold Norman was even worse than Williams because Norman would  create information to ingratiate himself with those white men in suits.....For Example....He told the FBI that he heard the sound of the rifle bolt being operated and the sound muzzle blast and the sounds of the shells hitting the floor .    Norman was lying.....He probably did hear gun shots but he most certainly didn't hear the bolt being operated or shells hitting the floor....

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Re: Don't get bit.....
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2020, 06:29:30 PM »
Good afternoon, Mr. Cakebread

Remember reading some of your interesting & insightful post back in 2014 when I made my initial foray into JFK Assassination Research. Given that you have some time on your hands at the moment, this would be an ideal time to ask you a few questions and get your feedback.

Q1: Given the times of the day, Do you believe the Coloured TSBD workers in that Jim Crow era would withhold any key evidence contrary to the findings of the Warren Commission? Could they be prone to the conditions of that era to simply parrot back whatever the authorities wanted to hear?

Q2: With Q1 in mind, given that it has now been revealed—albeit many years later—that the wrongly accused from his vantage point downstairs on the first-floor actually saw James “Junior” Jarman re-enter the building from the rear as late as 12:25PM,
nowhere near the front of the building, let alone six stories up lurking in a window far removed from the rear of the building, awaiting President Kennedy’s arrival, Do you think/believe James “Junior” Jarman knew which way the wind was blowing as he parroted back what officialdom wanted to hear? 

Q3: What is your personal take on the gunsmoke seen by multiple eyewitness some 100 yards down Elm Street that afternoon, nowhere near a gun discharge from the sixth floor? and the subsequent smell of gunpowder-smell emanating soon afterwards? ---->

http://jfkact.org/?p=940

Lastly, Q4 and a Thank You in advance for your time today. Does this sound like a deranged, pathetic loser as others try to portray him seeking his glorified 15 minutes of fame? ---->


Did you catch what he said there, Mr. Cakebread at, quote, “I don’t even know what I’m here for”… that’s a very telling statement. The wrongly accused was framed. He didn’t shoot anybody. Anybody.

Q2: With Q1 in mind, given that it has now been revealed—albeit many years later—that the wrongly accused from his vantage point downstairs on the first-floor actually saw James “Junior” Jarman re-enter the building from the rear as late as 12:25PM,
nowhere near the front of the building, let alone six stories up lurking in a window far removed from the rear of the building, awaiting President Kennedy’s arrival, Do you think/believe James “Junior” Jarman knew which way the wind was blowing as he parroted back what officialdom wanted to hear?


Yes, I believe that Jarman ( who was a older than BRW or HN ) realized that there was a "skunk under the woodpile"  ..... Junior couldn't see the skunk but his nose told him it was there.  IOW.....Jarman knew that the story being aired on radio and TV was not true.....   But he also knew that he would be wise to keep his mouth shut and continue to watch the grass and flowers grow from the green side.   However Jarman felt a bit more at ease when he appeared before LBJ's cover up committee, and there fore spoke a little more openly.    He swore that he and Norman left the front of the TSBD at about 12:25 and walked around to the back door of the TSBD, passing right by the 1st floor lunchroom, and then took the west elevator to the 5th floor, where they arrived at 12:28.  ( Lee Oswald told Captain Fritz that he was in the lunchroom and had seen them walk by the lunchroom)

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Re: Don't get bit.....
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2020, 06:40:08 PM »
Good afternoon, Mr. Cakebread

Remember reading some of your interesting & insightful post back in 2014 when I made my initial foray into JFK Assassination Research. Given that you have some time on your hands at the moment, this would be an ideal time to ask you a few questions and get your feedback.

Q1: Given the times of the day, Do you believe the Coloured TSBD workers in that Jim Crow era would withhold any key evidence contrary to the findings of the Warren Commission? Could they be prone to the conditions of that era to simply parrot back whatever the authorities wanted to hear?

Q2: With Q1 in mind, given that it has now been revealed—albeit many years later—that the wrongly accused from his vantage point downstairs on the first-floor actually saw James “Junior” Jarman re-enter the building from the rear as late as 12:25PM,
nowhere near the front of the building, let alone six stories up lurking in a window far removed from the rear of the building, awaiting President Kennedy’s arrival, Do you think/believe James “Junior” Jarman knew which way the wind was blowing as he parroted back what officialdom wanted to hear? 

Q3: What is your personal take on the gunsmoke seen by multiple eyewitness some 100 yards down Elm Street that afternoon, nowhere near a gun discharge from the sixth floor? and the subsequent smell of gunpowder-smell emanating soon afterwards? ---->

http://jfkact.org/?p=940

Lastly, Q4 and a Thank You in advance for your time today. Does this sound like a deranged, pathetic loser as others try to portray him seeking his glorified 15 minutes of fame? ---->


Did you catch what he said there, Mr. Cakebread at, quote, “I don’t even know what I’m here for”… that’s a very telling statement. The wrongly accused was framed. He didn’t shoot anybody. Anybody.

Q3: What is your personal take on the gunsmoke seen by multiple eyewitness some 100 yards down Elm Street that afternoon, nowhere near a gun discharge from the sixth floor? and the subsequent smell of gunpowder-smell emanating soon afterwards? ---->

I'm sure that the eyewitnesses saw smoke.....  But I doubt that it was gunsmoke.....  Because modern gunpowder burns very hot and doesn't emit much smoke.
I suspect that the witnesses saw smoke from the large firecracker that was a signal to the assassination team to open fire.   Since gunpowder burns very hot not only doesn't  it emit much smoke there is not much odor created either, whereas a firecracker does produce a lot of smoke and also a copious  amount of odor.

I'm convinced that there was no rifle fired from that SE corner window.   

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Re: Don't get bit.....
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2020, 06:50:06 PM »
Good afternoon, Mr. Cakebread

Remember reading some of your interesting & insightful post back in 2014 when I made my initial foray into JFK Assassination Research. Given that you have some time on your hands at the moment, this would be an ideal time to ask you a few questions and get your feedback.

Q1: Given the times of the day, Do you believe the Coloured TSBD workers in that Jim Crow era would withhold any key evidence contrary to the findings of the Warren Commission? Could they be prone to the conditions of that era to simply parrot back whatever the authorities wanted to hear?

Q2: With Q1 in mind, given that it has now been revealed—albeit many years later—that the wrongly accused from his vantage point downstairs on the first-floor actually saw James “Junior” Jarman re-enter the building from the rear as late as 12:25PM,
nowhere near the front of the building, let alone six stories up lurking in a window far removed from the rear of the building, awaiting President Kennedy’s arrival, Do you think/believe James “Junior” Jarman knew which way the wind was blowing as he parroted back what officialdom wanted to hear? 

Q3: What is your personal take on the gunsmoke seen by multiple eyewitness some 100 yards down Elm Street that afternoon, nowhere near a gun discharge from the sixth floor? and the subsequent smell of gunpowder-smell emanating soon afterwards? ---->

http://jfkact.org/?p=940

Lastly, Q4 and a Thank You in advance for your time today. Does this sound like a deranged, pathetic loser as others try to portray him seeking his glorified 15 minutes of fame? ---->


Did you catch what he said there, Mr. Cakebread at, quote, “I don’t even know what I’m here for”… that’s a very telling statement. The wrongly accused was framed. He didn’t shoot anybody. Anybody.

Lastly, Q4 and a Thank You in advance for your time today. Does this sound like a deranged, pathetic loser as others try to portray him seeking his glorified 15 minutes of fame? ---->


No, Lee does not sound like a deranged person......  He does sound a bit angry,  but still being polite and respectful in his reply....

I have no doubt that Lee Oswald was suckered into making himself appear to be the assassin....BUT BUT....  that was the consequences for placing too much trust in an organization that he deeply admired, The FBI.


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Re: Don't get bit.....
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2020, 06:56:14 PM »
Good afternoon, Mr. Cakebread

Remember reading some of your interesting & insightful post back in 2014 when I made my initial foray into JFK Assassination Research. Given that you have some time on your hands at the moment, this would be an ideal time to ask you a few questions and get your feedback.

Q1: Given the times of the day, Do you believe the Coloured TSBD workers in that Jim Crow era would withhold any key evidence contrary to the findings of the Warren Commission? Could they be prone to the conditions of that era to simply parrot back whatever the authorities wanted to hear?

Q2: With Q1 in mind, given that it has now been revealed—albeit many years later—that the wrongly accused from his vantage point downstairs on the first-floor actually saw James “Junior” Jarman re-enter the building from the rear as late as 12:25PM,
nowhere near the front of the building, let alone six stories up lurking in a window far removed from the rear of the building, awaiting President Kennedy’s arrival, Do you think/believe James “Junior” Jarman knew which way the wind was blowing as he parroted back what officialdom wanted to hear? 

Q3: What is your personal take on the gunsmoke seen by multiple eyewitness some 100 yards down Elm Street that afternoon, nowhere near a gun discharge from the sixth floor? and the subsequent smell of gunpowder-smell emanating soon afterwards? ---->

http://jfkact.org/?p=940

Lastly, Q4 and a Thank You in advance for your time today. Does this sound like a deranged, pathetic loser as others try to portray him seeking his glorified 15 minutes of fame? ---->


Did you catch what he said there, Mr. Cakebread at, quote, “I don’t even know what I’m here for”… that’s a very telling statement. The wrongly accused was framed. He didn’t shoot anybody. Anybody.

Oswald: I'm innocent.
CT Judge: Okay, you can go.
Oswald: [SMIRK]

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Re: Don't get bit.....
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2020, 06:57:00 PM »
Mr. Cakebread,

Appreciate your time today sir , and have read 3/4ths of your responses. Em's giving me that look, so am off for now to complete some weekend odds & ends; and will certainly venture back later today to read your response to Q4. Again, Thank You! Best to you & yours to remain healthy & safe amid this ongoing pandemic challenge.

Hmm...raising my eyebrows at your description of the Warren Commission, quote ----> "LBJs's Cover Up Committee".

Were the American people lulled to sleep? Is the "Magic Bullet" a mere fairytale after all...

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Don't get bit.....
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2020, 06:59:34 PM »
Lastly, Q4 and a Thank You in advance for your time today. Does this sound like a deranged, pathetic loser as others try to portray him seeking his glorified 15 minutes of fame? ---->


No, Lee does not sound like a deranged person......  He does sound a bit angry,  but still being polite and respectful in his reply....

I have no doubt that Lee Oswald was suckered into making himself appear to be the assassin....BUT BUT....  that was the consequences for placing too much trust in an organization that he deeply admired, The FBI.

I have no doubt you suffer from a severe discernment deficit. No way to tell if it is limited to your cultish attraction to authoritarianism....

How can I help you extract your head.......

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…..They are, for the most part, developmentally wounded “authoritarians”, which means they submit readily to authority....

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