Back and to the right?

[Joe Elliott]

In propaganda, the ‘Labels’ one use has a powerful effect. The “Magic Bullet Theory”. The “Violent motion” of JFK’s head. Choice and establish the right labels and you have won half the battle.

If you can establish, in people’s minds, the motion was “Violent”, maybe not possible by JFK, maybe not possible for an Olympic athletic, then what else could cause this motion but the powerful effects of a bullet?

But if the motion is actually much slower, much more ordinary, then maybe something more ordinary could account for this motion, like the muscles of JFK’s body.

[Joe Elliott]

Are you saying that you believe JFK was shot from the front?

No. Shot from the back. As evident by the initial j-e-r-k forward of the head.

Note, I spell ‘j-e-r-k’ as ‘j-e-r-k’ because in the past, posts with this word without the dashes were automatically considered insults and deleted.

The immediate backwards movement is most likely a neurological spam.

[Gerry Down]

I'm starting to think JFKs head just went limp after being shot in the back of the head and the forward movement of the limo caused JFKs limp head to fall back, just like his body goes back too shortly thereafter.

[Joe Elliott]

I'm starting to think JFKs head just went limp after being shot in the back of the head and the forward movement of the limo caused JFKs limp head to fall back, just like his body goes back too shortly thereafter.

Yes, but the limousine was moving at a pretty steady speed of 8 mph, with only a little acceleration, a fraction of the acceleration that we see in JFK’s head, mild as it was. The movement (from Physics) inside a vehicle moving at a constant speed are the same as if the vehicle was stationary, relative to the vehicle.

[Walt Cakebread]

Yes Gerry, you have made a good point. Basically, an argument that can be used against a Pro LN scenario cannot be used against a Pro CT scenario. In that case, it is to be dropped like a red hot stove.

A Pro CT argument is that a body will always move away from the gun. This is a false argument. The muscles of the victim may move the body, even in the case of a bullet through the brain, as can be shown by film of goats being shot through the brain. But cannot be shown by film of people being shot through the brain because these experiments are not allowed.

So, a Pro CT argument is that “Back and to the Left” movement of JFK’s head (I think it’s more of a Backward movement, with a falling to the left side) proves there was not shot from Oswald’s position then, but instead a shot from the right front.

But a back of the right part of the head exit wound indicates a shooter to the front and left. But the principle of “a victim is always driven away from the shooter” and the claim “JFK head was driven back and to the left” would preclude such a shooter. The fallacy in your thinking, from a CT point of view, is using arguments that can be used to discard a Pro-LN scenario to discard a Pro-CT scenario. That is a clear misuse of these techniques.

Martin Weidmann pretended to not understand what you were driving at so he danced around your question.

A Pro CT argument is that a body will always move away from the gun. This is a false argument. The muscles of the victim may move the body, even in the case of a bullet through the brain,

This factual information..... The head of a victim will move in the direction the projectile is traveling.....

[Gerry Down]

Yes, but the limousine was moving at a pretty steady speed of 8 mph, with only a little acceleration, a fraction of the acceleration that we see in JFK’s head, mild as it was. The movement (from Physics) inside a vehicle moving at a constant speed are the same as if the vehicle was stationary, relative to the vehicle.

Or is it? The limo was open to the air. This is not like being inside an airplane travelling at 500 miles an hour. JFKs head was open to the air.

[Royell Storing]

I'm starting to think JFKs head just went limp after being shot in the back of the head and the forward movement of the limo caused JFKs limp head to fall back, just like his body goes back too shortly thereafter.

   The subtle head movement/tilt is caused by Jackie Pulling DOWN on JFK's arm/wrist. Then the EXPLOSION!. What we See as a result of the Head Shot is Unlike any Other Shot fired that day. Different Ammo, Different Weapon, Different Shooter.