Bob Dylan - Murder Most Foul

[Bill Chapman]

Murder Most Foul

Even the title sucks. Calling the assassination a mere 'murder' is rather odd, I find: Just how important does one have to be in order to qualify as having been 'assassinated'?

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Bob Dylan Accused of Plagiarizing Nobel Lecture From SparkNotes
Slate writer Andrea Pitzer uncovers striking similarities between musician’s thoughts on ‘Moby-Dick,’ entry on CliffsNotes-like site
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bob-dylan-accused-of-plagiarizing-nobel-lecture-from-sparknotes-198150/

[Excerpts]

*As Pitzer points out, Dylan’s Nobel lecture does not mark the first time he’s been accused of plagiarism. He’s long borrowed lyrics from other sources, with his 2001 album Love and Theft drawing criticism for lyrics seemingly culled from Junichi Saga’s book Confessions of a Yakuza and Henry Timrod’s Civil War poetry. Even Dylan’s paintings from his 2011 exhibit, “The Asia Series,” came under fire for their similarities to well-known photographs taken by Henri Cartier-Bresson and Léon Busy.

In a 2012 interview with Rolling Stone, Dylan responded to the accusations of plagiarism pertaining to Love and Theft. “I’m working within my art form,” he said. “It’s that simple. I work within the rules and limitations of it. There are authoritarian figures that can explain that kind of art form better to you than I can. It’s called songwriting. It has to do with melody and rhythm, and then after that, anything goes. You make everything yours. We all do it.”

[Brian Walker]

I love Dylan and think he is by far the greatest artist of the rock era but he is a narrative over evidence and proof type of guy.  He always has been. I am not surprised at all that he thinks there was a conspiracy.  He always gets it wrong.

[Gary Craig]

The Poet of a generation writes a song about a defining event of that generation.

[Walt Cakebread]

The Poet of a generation writes a song about a defining event of that generation.

Quite right, Mr Craig....  The coup d e'tat certainly was a watershed event in the US.    Nothing has been the same as it was before the murder.

Just listen to the change in  our music....it reflects a drastic change in out youth.    Before the Coup....We were singing about happy things, like "wake up little Suzie" or Heartbreak Hotel, etc.....   Now we sing about killing cops.....

[Steve M. Galbraith]

He faked being a hippie folk singer.  He later admitted he couldn't stand those folks.  He is at least candid about that fifty years after he cashed out on those knuckleheads.  This song is such a rambling piece of nonsense it is impossible to determine whether he is a conspiracy kook. 


What is the truth, and where did it go?
Ask Oswald and Ruby, they oughta know

It's a pretty awful song - the lyrics, et cetera. Norman Mailer won numerous awards - two Pulitzers, several National Book Awards - but I don't see conspiracy advocates uncritically accepting his book on Oswald. Nor should they.

In any case, on December 13, 1963 Dylan received the "Tom Paine" award and he said this (in part):

“… So, I accept this reward – not reward, (Laughter) award in behalf of Phillip Luce who led the group to Cuba which all people should go down to Cuba. I don’t see why anybody can’t go to Cuba. I don’t see what’s going to hurt by going any place. I don’t know what’s going to hurt anybody’s eyes to see anything. On the other hand, Phillip is a friend of mine who went to Cuba.

I’ll stand up and to get uncompromisable about it, which I have to be to be honest, I just got to be, as I got to admit that the man who shot President Kennedy, Lee Oswald, I don’t know exactly where —what he thought he was doing, but I got to admit honestly that I too – I saw some of myself in him. I don’t think it would have gone – I don’t think it could go that far. But I got to stand up and say I saw things that he felt, in me – not to go that far and shoot. (Boos and hisses) You can boo but booing’s got nothing to do with it. It’s a – I just a – I’ve got to tell you, man, it’s Bill of Rights is free speech and I just want to admit that I accept this Tom Paine Award in behalf of James Forman of the Students Non-Violent Coordinating Committee and on behalf of the people who went to Cuba…”. (Boos and Applause)

I don't know if he later changed his views on this. Probably so.

[Gary Craig]

He faked being a hippie folk singer.  He later admitted he couldn't stand those folks.  He is at least candid about that fifty years after he cashed out on those knuckleheads.  This song is such a rambling piece of nonsense it is impossible to determine whether he is a conspiracy kook. 


What is the truth, and where did it go?
Ask Oswald and Ruby, they oughta know

 

Maybe you should contact the Nobel Prize Committee and let them know Dylan was faking it when he wrote the songs in the 60's that garnered him a Nobel Prize.

[Walt Cakebread]

It's a pretty awful song - the lyrics, et cetera. Norman Mailer won numerous awards - two Pulitzers, several National Book Awards - but I don't see conspiracy advocates uncritically accepting his book on Oswald. Nor should they.

In any case, on December 13, 1963 Dylan received the "Tom Paine" award and he said this (in part):

“… So, I accept this reward – not reward, (Laughter) award in behalf of Phillip Luce who led the group to Cuba which all people should go down to Cuba. I don’t see why anybody can’t go to Cuba. I don’t see what’s going to hurt by going any place. I don’t know what’s going to hurt anybody’s eyes to see anything. On the other hand, Phillip is a friend of mine who went to Cuba.

I’ll stand up and to get uncompromisable about it, which I have to be to be honest, I just got to be, as I got to admit that the man who shot President Kennedy, Lee Oswald, I don’t know exactly where —what he thought he was doing, but I got to admit honestly that I too – I saw some of myself in him. I don’t think it would have gone – I don’t think it could go that far. But I got to stand up and say I saw things that he felt, in me – not to go that far and shoot. (Boos and hisses) You can boo but booing’s got nothing to do with it. It’s a – I just a – I’ve got to tell you, man, it’s Bill of Rights is free speech and I just want to admit that I accept this Tom Paine Award in behalf of James Forman of the Students Non-Violent Coordinating Committee and on behalf of the people who went to Cuba…”. (Boos and Applause)

I don't know if he later changed his views on this. Probably so.

I don’t see why anybody can’t go to Cuba. I don’t see what’s going to hurt by going any place. I don’t know what’s going to hurt anybody’s eyes to see anything. On the other hand,

Since it's common knowledge that Castro was supposed to be blamed for the assassination of JFK....

And Castor conducted a very through investigation concerning WHO was behind the murder....Do you suppose that you're blocked from going to Cuba because "Someone" is very afraid that you might learn the truth.