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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Robert Reeves on March 27, 2020, 05:48:57 PM
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It was a dark day in Dallas, November '63
A day that will live on in infamy
President Kennedy was a-ridin' high
Good day to be livin' and a good day to die
Being led to the slaughter like a sacrificial lamb
He said, "Wait a minute, boys, you know who I am?"
"Of course we do, we know who you are!"
Then they blew off his head while he was still in the car
Shot down like a dog in broad daylight
Was a matter of timing and the timing was right
You got unpaid debts, we've come to collect
We're gonna kill you with hatred, without any respect
We'll mock you and shock you and we'll put it in your face
We've already got someone here to take your place
The day they blew out the brains of the king
Thousands were watching, no one saw a thing
It happened so quickly, so quick, by surprise
Right there in front of everyone's eyes
Greatest magic trick ever under the sun
Perfectly executed, skillfully done
Wolfman, oh wolfman, oh wolfman howl
Rub-a-dub-dub, it's a murder most foul
[Verse 2]
Hush, little children, you'll understand
The Beatles are comin', they're gonna hold your hand
Slide down the banister, go get your coat
Ferry 'cross the Mersey and go for the throat
There's three bums comin' all dressed in rags
Pick up the pieces and lower the flags
I'm goin' to Woodstock, it's the Aquarian Age
Then I'll go to Altamont and sit near the stage
Put your head out the window, let the good times roll
There's a party going on behind the Grassy Knoll
Stack up the bricks, pour the cement
Don't say Dallas don't love you, Mr. President
Put your foot in the tank and then step on the gas
Try to make it to the triple underpass
Blackface singer, whiteface clown
Better not show your faces after the sun goes down
Up in the red light district, they've got cop on the beat
Living in a nightmare on Elm Street
When you're down on Deep Ellum, put your money in your shoe
Don't ask what your country can do for you
Cash on the ballot, money to burn
Dealey Plaza, make a left-hand turn
I'm going down to the crossroads, gonna flag a ride
The place where faith, hope, and charity lie
Shoot him while he runs, boy, shoot him while you can
See if you can shoot the invisible man
Goodbye, Charlie! Goodbye, Uncle Sam!
Frankly, Miss Scarlett, I don't give a damn
What is the truth, and where did it go?
Ask Oswald and Ruby, they oughta know
"Shut your mouth," said a wise old owl
Business is business, and it's a murder most foul
[Verse 3]
Tommy, can you hear me? I'm the Acid Queen
I'm riding in a long, black Lincoln limousine
Ridin' in the backseat next to my wife
Headed straight on in to the afterlife
I'm leaning to the left, I got my head in her lap
Hold on, I've been led into some kind of a trap
Where we ask no quarter, and no quarter do we give
We're right down the street, from the street where you live
They mutilated his body and they took out his brain
What more could they do? They piled on the pain
But his soul was not there where it was supposed to be at
For the last fifty years they've been searchin' for that
Freedom, oh freedom, freedom over me
I hate to tell you, mister, but only dead men are free
Send me some lovin', then tell me no lie
Throw the gun in the gutter and walk on by
Wake up, little Susie, let's go for a drive
Cross the Trinity River, let's keep hope alive
Turn the radio on, don't touch the dials
Parkland hospital, only six more miles
You got me dizzy, Miss Lizzy, you filled me with lead
That magic bullet of yours has gone to my head
I'm just a patsy like Patsy Cline
Never shot anyone from in front or behind
I've blood in my eye, got blood in my ear
I'm never gonna make it to the new frontier
Zapruder's film I seen night before
Seen it thirty-three times, maybe more
It's vile and deceitful, it's cruel and it's mean
Ugliest thing that you ever have seen
They killed him once and they killed him twice
Killed him like a human sacrifice
The day that they killed him, someone said to me, "Son
The age of the Antichrist has just only begun"
Air Force One comin' in through the gate
Johnson sworn in at 2:38
Let me know when you decide to throw in the towel
It is what it is, and it's murder most foul
[Verse 4]
What's new, pussycat? What'd I say?
I said the soul of a nation been torn away
And it's beginning to go into a slow decay
And that it's thirty-six hours past Judgment Day
Wolfman Jack, he's speaking in tongues
He's going on and on at the top of his lungs
Play me a song, Mr. Wolfman Jack
Play it for me in my long Cadillac
Play me that "Only the Good Die Young"
Take me to the place Tom Dooley was hung
Play "St. James Infirmary" and the Court of King James
If you want to remember, you better write down the names
Play Etta James, too, play "I'd Rather Go Blind"
Play it for the man with the telepathic mind
Play John Lee Hooker, play "Scratch My Back"
Play it for that strip club owner named Jack
Guitar Slim going down slow
Play it for me and for Marilyn Monroe
[Verse 5]
Play "Please Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood"
Play it for the First Lady, she ain't feeling any good
Play Don Henley, play Glenn Frey
Take it to the limit and let it go by
Play it for Carl Wilson, too
Looking far, far away down Gower Avenue
Play tragedy, play "Twilight Time"
Take me back to Tulsa to the scene of the crime
Play another one and "Another One Bites the Dust"
Play "The Old Rugged Cross" and "In God We Trust"
Ride the pink horse down that long, lonesome road
Stand there and wait for his head to explode
Play "Mystery Train" for Mr. Mystery
The man who fell down dead like a rootless tree
Play it for the reverend, play it for the pastor
Play it for the dog that got no master
Play Oscar Peterson, play Stan Getz
Play "Blue Sky," play Dickey Betts
Play Art Pepper, Thelonious Monk
Charlie Parker and all that junk
All that junk and "All That Jazz"
Play something for the Birdman of Alcatraz
Play Buster Keaton, play Harold Lloyd
Play Bugsy Siegel, play Pretty Boy Floyd
Play the numbers, play the odds
Play "Cry Me A River" for the Lord of the gods
Play Number nine, play Number six
Play it for Lindsey and Stevie Nicks
Play Nat King Cole, play "Nature Boy"
Play "Down In The Boondocks" for Terry Malloy
Play "It Happened One Night" and "One Night of Sin"
There's twelve million souls that are listening in
Play "Merchant of Venice", play "Merchants of Death"
Play "Stella by Starlight" for Lady Macbeth
Don't worry, Mr. President, help's on the way
Your brothers are comin', there'll be hell to pay
Brothers? What brothers? What's this about hell?
Tell them, "We're waiting, keep coming," we'll get them as well
Love Field is where his plane touched down
But it never did get back up off the ground
Was a hard act to follow, second to none
They killed him on the altar of the rising sun
Play "Misty" for me and "That Old Devil Moon"
Play "Anything Goes" and "Memphis in June"
Play "Lonely At the Top" and "Lonely Are the Brave"
Play it for Houdini spinning around his grave
Play Jelly Roll Morton, play "Lucille"
Play "Deep In a Dream", and play "Driving Wheel"
Play "Moonlight Sonata" in F-sharp
And "A Key to the Highway" for the king on the harp
Play "Marching Through Georgia" and "Dumbarton's Drums"
Play darkness and death will come when it comes
Play "Love Me Or Leave Me" by the great Bud Powell
Play "The Blood-stained Banner", play "Murder Most Foul"
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"I'll stand up and to get uncompromisable about it, which I have to be to be honest, I just got to be, as
I got to admit that the man who shot President Kennedy, Lee Oswald, I don't know exactly where —
what he thought he was doing, but I got to admit honestly that I too — I saw some of myself in him.
I don't think it would have gone — I don't think it could go that far. But I got to stand up and say I saw
things that he felt, in me — not to go that far and shoot. You can boo but booing's got nothing to do with it.
It's a — I just a — I've got to tell you, man, its Bill of Rights is free speech and I just want to admit that I
accept this Tom Paine Award in behalf of James Forman of the Students Non-Violent Coordinating
Committee and on behalf of the people who went to Cuba."
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-- Excerpt from Dylan's off-the-cuff acceptance remarks, Dec. 13, 1963
"when I spoke of Lee Oswald, I was speaking of the times
I was not speaking of his deed if it was his deed.
the deed speaks for itself
but I am sick
so sick
at hearing "we all share the blame" for every
church bombing, gun battle, mine disaster,
poverty explosion, and president killing that
comes about."
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-- From explanation letter a few days later
Dylan probably sympathized with the outcast and resisted the florid canonization of JFK. Kennedy was still Establishment and the left had yet to turn on Johnson.
BTW, Paul McCartney offered to write a film score for Mark Lane's "Rush to Judgment" documentary.
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"I'll stand up and to get uncompromisable about it, which I have to be to be honest, I just got to be, as
I got to admit that the man who shot President Kennedy, Lee Oswald, I don't know exactly where —
what he thought he was doing, but I got to admit honestly that I too — I saw some of myself in him.
I don't think it would have gone — I don't think it could go that far. But I got to stand up and say I saw
things that he felt, in me — not to go that far and shoot. You can boo but booing's got nothing to do with it.
It's a — I just a — I've got to tell you, man, its Bill of Rights is free speech and I just want to admit that I
accept this Tom Paine Award in behalf of James Forman of the Students Non-Violent Coordinating
Committee and on behalf of the people who went to Cuba."
(https://sites.google.com/site/jfkforum/misc/newsgroup/spacers/dot_clear.gif)
-- Excerpt from Dylan's off-the-cuff acceptance remarks, Dec. 13, 1963
"when I spoke of Lee Oswald, I was speaking of the times
I was not speaking of his deed if it was his deed.
the deed speaks for itself
but I am sick
so sick
at hearing "we all share the blame" for every
church bombing, gun battle, mine disaster,
poverty explosion, and president killing that
comes about."
(https://sites.google.com/site/jfkforum/misc/newsgroup/spacers/dot_clear.gif)
-- From explanation letter a few days later
Dylan probably sympathized with the outcast and resisted the florid canonization of JFK. Kennedy was still Establishment and the left had yet to turn on Johnson.
BTW, Paul McCartney offered to write a film score for Mark Lane's "Rush to Judgment" documentary.
One would think that after over a half century has passed, there would be no tears shed in reading the lyrics...... Not so.... The injustice we experienced in that three day weekend is still as alive as it was on 11/24/63....
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If Dylan's name wasn't associated with it, the critics would have fallen down laughing at the childish lyrics. But because Dylan wrote it, it must be genius. Some guys don't know when to call it quits.
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If Dylan's name wasn't associated with it, the critics would have fallen down laughing at the childish lyrics. But because Dylan wrote it, it must be genius. Some guys don't know when to call it quits.
Some guys don't know when to call it quits.
Yeah, Richard Smith is one of them.
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If Dylan's name wasn't associated with it, the critics would have fallen down laughing at the childish lyrics. But because Dylan wrote it, it must be genius. Some guys don't know when to call it quits.
"If Dylan's name wasn't associated with it"
But his name is associated with it and he's a Nobel Prize recipient for literature.
You calling his lyrics childish says more about you than him.
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"If Dylan's name wasn't associated with it"
But his name is associated with it and he's a Nobel Prize recipient for literature.
You calling his lyrics childish says more about you than him.
Well said, Gary.
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Some guys don't know when to call it quits.
Yeah, Richard Smith is one of them.
I guess Roger called it quits.
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If Dylan's name wasn't associated with it, the critics would have fallen down laughing at the childish lyrics. But because Dylan wrote it, it must be genius. Some guys don't know when to call it quits.
Those lyrics show that not unlike Picasso, the guy who used to be Bob Dylan left his worst work 'til last*... not to mention that he's actually talking more than singing, and WTF happened to the harmonica?
*Oh, the irony:
The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'.
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.
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I guess Roger called it quits.
Says a guy calling himself “Richard Smith”.
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Those lyrics show that like Picasso, the guy who used to be Bob Dylan left his worst work 'til last* Not to mention he's actually talking more than singing, and WTF happened to the harmonica?
*Oh, the irony:
The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'.
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.
Yes, it's pretty laughable like the third runner up in a write Bob Dylan song parody:
It was a dark day in Dallas, November '63
A day that will live on in infamy
President Kennedy was a-ridin' high
Good day to be livin' and a good day to die
Being led to the slaughter like a sacrificial lamb
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I'm sure that Bob Dylan welcomes the songwriting advice from "Richard Smith".
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Kinda sad that Bob Dylan is making money from a murder. He's not adding anything new to the JFK case, only looking for attention IMO.
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Kinda sad that Bob Dylan is making money from a murder. He's not adding anything new to the JFK case, only looking for attention IMO.
How is Dylan making money from an unreleased song?
And how about all those books for and against the lone nut theory? Money played no part, do you think?
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Murder Most Foul
Even the title sucks. Calling the assassination a mere 'murder' is rather odd, I find: Just how important does one have to be in order to qualify as having been 'assassinated'?
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Bob Dylan Accused of Plagiarizing Nobel Lecture From SparkNotes
Slate writer Andrea Pitzer uncovers striking similarities between musician’s thoughts on ‘Moby-Dick,’ entry on CliffsNotes-like site
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bob-dylan-accused-of-plagiarizing-nobel-lecture-from-sparknotes-198150/
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*As Pitzer points out, Dylan’s Nobel lecture does not mark the first time he’s been accused of plagiarism. He’s long borrowed lyrics from other sources, with his 2001 album Love and Theft drawing criticism for lyrics seemingly culled from Junichi Saga’s book Confessions of a Yakuza and Henry Timrod’s Civil War poetry. Even Dylan’s paintings from his 2011 exhibit, “The Asia Series,” came under fire for their similarities to well-known photographs taken by Henri Cartier-Bresson and Léon Busy.
In a 2012 interview with Rolling Stone, Dylan responded to the accusations of plagiarism pertaining to Love and Theft. “I’m working within my art form,” he said. “It’s that simple. I work within the rules and limitations of it. There are authoritarian figures that can explain that kind of art form better to you than I can. It’s called songwriting. It has to do with melody and rhythm, and then after that, anything goes. You make everything yours. We all do it.”
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I love Dylan and think he is by far the greatest artist of the rock era but he is a narrative over evidence and proof type of guy. He always has been. I am not surprised at all that he thinks there was a conspiracy. He always gets it wrong.
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The Poet of a generation writes a song about a defining event of that generation.
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The Poet of a generation writes a song about a defining event of that generation.
Quite right, Mr Craig.... The coup d e'tat certainly was a watershed event in the US. Nothing has been the same as it was before the murder.
Just listen to the change in our music....it reflects a drastic change in out youth. Before the Coup....We were singing about happy things, like "wake up little Suzie" or Heartbreak Hotel, etc..... Now we sing about killing cops.....
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He faked being a hippie folk singer. He later admitted he couldn't stand those folks. He is at least candid about that fifty years after he cashed out on those knuckleheads. This song is such a rambling piece of nonsense it is impossible to determine whether he is a conspiracy kook.
What is the truth, and where did it go?
Ask Oswald and Ruby, they oughta know
It's a pretty awful song - the lyrics, et cetera. Norman Mailer won numerous awards - two Pulitzers, several National Book Awards - but I don't see conspiracy advocates uncritically accepting his book on Oswald. Nor should they.
In any case, on December 13, 1963 Dylan received the "Tom Paine" award and he said this (in part):
“… So, I accept this reward – not reward, (Laughter) award in behalf of Phillip Luce who led the group to Cuba which all people should go down to Cuba. I don’t see why anybody can’t go to Cuba. I don’t see what’s going to hurt by going any place. I don’t know what’s going to hurt anybody’s eyes to see anything. On the other hand, Phillip is a friend of mine who went to Cuba.
I’ll stand up and to get uncompromisable about it, which I have to be to be honest, I just got to be, as I got to admit that the man who shot President Kennedy, Lee Oswald, I don’t know exactly where —what he thought he was doing, but I got to admit honestly that I too – I saw some of myself in him. I don’t think it would have gone – I don’t think it could go that far. But I got to stand up and say I saw things that he felt, in me – not to go that far and shoot. (Boos and hisses) You can boo but booing’s got nothing to do with it. It’s a – I just a – I’ve got to tell you, man, it’s Bill of Rights is free speech and I just want to admit that I accept this Tom Paine Award in behalf of James Forman of the Students Non-Violent Coordinating Committee and on behalf of the people who went to Cuba…”. (Boos and Applause)
I don't know if he later changed his views on this. Probably so.
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He faked being a hippie folk singer. He later admitted he couldn't stand those folks. He is at least candid about that fifty years after he cashed out on those knuckleheads. This song is such a rambling piece of nonsense it is impossible to determine whether he is a conspiracy kook.
What is the truth, and where did it go?
Ask Oswald and Ruby, they oughta know
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Maybe you should contact the Nobel Prize Committee and let them know Dylan was faking it when he wrote the songs in the 60's that garnered him a Nobel Prize.
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It's a pretty awful song - the lyrics, et cetera. Norman Mailer won numerous awards - two Pulitzers, several National Book Awards - but I don't see conspiracy advocates uncritically accepting his book on Oswald. Nor should they.
In any case, on December 13, 1963 Dylan received the "Tom Paine" award and he said this (in part):
“… So, I accept this reward – not reward, (Laughter) award in behalf of Phillip Luce who led the group to Cuba which all people should go down to Cuba. I don’t see why anybody can’t go to Cuba. I don’t see what’s going to hurt by going any place. I don’t know what’s going to hurt anybody’s eyes to see anything. On the other hand, Phillip is a friend of mine who went to Cuba.
I’ll stand up and to get uncompromisable about it, which I have to be to be honest, I just got to be, as I got to admit that the man who shot President Kennedy, Lee Oswald, I don’t know exactly where —what he thought he was doing, but I got to admit honestly that I too – I saw some of myself in him. I don’t think it would have gone – I don’t think it could go that far. But I got to stand up and say I saw things that he felt, in me – not to go that far and shoot. (Boos and hisses) You can boo but booing’s got nothing to do with it. It’s a – I just a – I’ve got to tell you, man, it’s Bill of Rights is free speech and I just want to admit that I accept this Tom Paine Award in behalf of James Forman of the Students Non-Violent Coordinating Committee and on behalf of the people who went to Cuba…”. (Boos and Applause)
I don't know if he later changed his views on this. Probably so.
I don’t see why anybody can’t go to Cuba. I don’t see what’s going to hurt by going any place. I don’t know what’s going to hurt anybody’s eyes to see anything. On the other hand,
Since it's common knowledge that Castro was supposed to be blamed for the assassination of JFK....
And Castor conducted a very through investigation concerning WHO was behind the murder....Do you suppose that you're blocked from going to Cuba because "Someone" is very afraid that you might learn the truth.
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This song is such a rambling piece of nonsense it is impossible to determine whether he is a conspiracy kook.
Not nearly as rambling and nonsensical as what you post here.
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He faked being a hippie folk singer. He later admitted he couldn't stand those folks. He is at least candid about that fifty years after he cashed out on those knuckleheads. This song is such a rambling piece of nonsense it is impossible to determine whether he is a conspiracy kook.
What is the truth, and where did it go?
Ask Oswald and Ruby, they oughta know
The answer is blowin' in the (Dealy Plaza 11.22.63 12:30-ish) wind
And although I find the lyrics most foul in Murder Most Foul,
Dylan's Hurricane is a veritable tour-de-force
'Hurricane' Bob Dylan
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Quote from: Richard Smith on Today at 11:33:53 AM
This song is such a rambling piece of nonsense it is impossible to determine whether he is a conspiracy kook.
Not nearly as rambling and nonsensical as what you post here.
What is the truth, and where did it go?
Ask Hoover and Johnson, they oughta know
"Shut your mouth, " said the wise old owl
Business is business, and it's a murder most foul
a rambling piece of nonsense?
Now it makes a lot more sense...I fixed it for ya' huh?
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Maybe you should contact the Nobel Prize Committee and let them know Dylan was faking it when he wrote the songs in the 60's that garnered him a Nobel Prize.
I don't have to do anything. Dylan confirmed it in his autobiography. He couldn't stand the idiot hippie, folk idiots. He faked the whole thing to buy a yacht and be rich. The joke is on you numbskulls. Did he write some good songs several decades ago? Yes. But it was all an act. He wanted to make money. He wrote a song about the Titanic and referenced "Leo." Wow. This is not my opinion. Read his autobiography. It was all a spoof on the hippie culture. Dylan wanted to be rich. He laughs his arse off at knuckleheads who thinks he is a genius.
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The joke is on you numbskulls.
Wrong...the joke is sitting at your computer.
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It was just a few days ago that I had the extraordinary experience of being on line, very late at night, and learning—quite unexpectedly— of Bob Dylan’s just released song, Murder Most Foul. Reading the lyrics, I was astonished to learn that Dylan had focused on— and incorporated into his lyrics—the essence of Best Evidence, or at least, of its final chapters:
David Lifton
Flatters himself? ::)
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Bob Dylan Scores First-Ever No. 1 Song on a Billboard Chart With ‘Murder Most Foul’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/bob-dylan-scores-first-ever-no-1-song-on-a-billboard-chart-with-murder-most-foul/ar-BB12l9Zw?ocid=spartanntp
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Don't all those people realize that "Richard" thinks it's no good?
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Bob Dylan Scores First-Ever No. 1 Song on a Billboard Chart With ‘Murder Most Foul’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/bob-dylan-scores-first-ever-no-1-song-on-a-billboard-chart-with-murder-most-foul/ar-BB12l9Zw?ocid=spartanntp
What a fantastic accomplishment. Congrats Bob. Your latest release just passed two REO Speedwagon songs and John Lennon's "Imagine" released decades ago that are listed in the top five in this same category to become number one! LOL. What's next? Will it out sell Sonny and Cher's Greatest Hits. The sky is the limit.
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I've read that people with really low self-esteem spend a lot of time cutting other people down.
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I've read that people with really low self-esteem spend a lot of time cutting other people down.
Yes, that's true John.....But what the person who is doing the belittling doesn't realize, is he is actually recognizing the other persons superiority. Otherwise he wouldn't bother to try to degrade ......
There are several members who i believe are not very bright.....I've read their ridiculous posts and don't bother to respond..... You may not agree with Mitch Todd, but he is one of the most intelligent, and honest, of the LN contingent..... I certain don't agree with him about Lee Oswald..... And I understand that there are some truths that are simply too horrible for some folks to accept. Anybody who has been indoctrinated into believing that we have "liberty and Justice for all" and they embrace that lofty ideal as true, probably cannot be convinced that it's a damned lie.
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Bob Dylan Scores First-Ever No. 1 Song on a Billboard Chart With ‘Murder Most Foul’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/bob-dylan-scores-first-ever-no-1-song-on-a-billboard-chart-with-murder-most-foul/ar-BB12l9Zw?ocid=spartanntp
His first ever No.1?
Sounds like he's just encouraged other artists that there is something to be gained by spouting conspiracy theories. Now there will be a throve of artists singing about the faked moon landings, chem trails etc etc.
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His first ever No.1?
Sounds like he's just encouraged other artists that there is something to be gained by spouting conspiracy theories. Now there will be a throve of artists singing about the faked moon landings, chem trails etc etc.
It's a bogus category created to generate publicity. The other top five songs in that Billboard category are from four decades ago including two songs by REO Speedwagon. Breaking news: three more people just downloaded it which pushes Dylan's new song ahead of "Let's Get Physical" by Olivia Newton John. It's like going to 11 in a Spinal Tap movie.
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It's a bogus category created to generate publicity. The other top five songs in that Billboard category are from four decades ago including two songs by REO Speedwagon. Breaking news: three more people just downloaded it which pushes Dylan's new song ahead of "Let's Get Physical" by Olivia Newton John. It's like going to 11 in a Spinal Tap movie.
A no.1 is a no.1 to celebrities. They'll do anything to remain in the spotlight.