Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.

[Walt Cakebread]

Before 3pm, those who viewed the SN assumed the sniper was shooting as the motorcade approached. Mooney makes reference to this obliquely when talking about the scar on the box. Day also mentions this in his testimony. The assumption may have also been because of the hull arrangement. The closed window wooden strip, next to the open one, is missing in early photos of the SN. This explains why the lengths of the strip in evidence differ over time. Early on it is described as about a foot shorter than the final version. The initial one broke or was already broken when removed. Later on Day organised removal of the longer one from the open window.

Before 3pm, those who viewed the SN assumed the sniper was shooting as the motorcade approached. Mooney makes reference to this obliquely when talking about the scar on the box.

"the sniper was shooting as the motorcade approached."

So Mooney imagined that the scar on the box indicated that the scar was made by the recoil of the rifle , and the rifle was aimed south and east ( toward Houston street) of the window? 

Can you provide verification that" Mooney makes reference to this obliquely when talking about the scar on the box." ?

[Colin Crow]

Before 3pm, those who viewed the SN assumed the sniper was shooting as the motorcade approached. Mooney makes reference to this obliquely when talking about the scar on the box.

"the sniper was shooting as the motorcade approached."

So Mooney imagined that the scar on the box indicated that the scar was made by the recoil of the rifle , and the rifle was aimed south and east ( toward Houston street) of the window? 

Can you provide verification that" Mooney makes reference to this obliquely when talking about the scar on the box." ?

Walt you need to add what Day said about the crease to understand Mooney's assumption.

Mooney

And the minute I squeezed between these two stacks of boxes, I had to turn myself sideways to get in there that is when I saw the expended shells and the boxes that were stacked up looked to be a rest for the weapon. And, also, there was a slight crease in the top box. Whether the recoil made the crease or it was placed there before the shots were fired, I don't know. But, anyway, there was a very slight crease in the box, where the rifle could have lain--at the same angle that the shots were fired from.

Day

There was a scar on the top of or the top side of this box that was sitting there. I noticed that at the time. I thought the recoil of the gun had caused that. I later decided that was in the wrong direction. It was not the recoil of the gun but I did notice this scar on the box.

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt you need to add what Day said about the crease to understand Mooney's assumption.

Mooney

And the minute I squeezed between these two stacks of boxes, I had to turn myself sideways to get in there that is when I saw the expended shells and the boxes that were stacked up looked to be a rest for the weapon. And, also, there was a slight crease in the top box. Whether the recoil made the crease or it was placed there before the shots were fired, I don't know. But, anyway, there was a very slight crease in the box, where the rifle could have lain--at the same angle that the shots were fired from.

Day

There was a scar on the top of or the top side of this box that was sitting there. I noticed that at the time. I thought the recoil of the gun had caused that. I later decided that was in the wrong direction. It was not the recoil of the gun but I did notice this scar on the box.

There was a scar on the top of or the top side of this box that was sitting there. I noticed that at the time. I thought the recoil of the gun had caused that. I later decided that was in the wrong direction. It was not the recoil of the gun but I did notice this scar on the box.

Thank you Colin.....   So the lead detective ( J.C.Day) deduced that the scar had nothing to do with the assassination.   ( And he was correct ) and yet that scar was included in the Warren Commission disinformation to continue to create confusion ......

[Colin Crow]

There was a scar on the top of or the top side of this box that was sitting there. I noticed that at the time. I thought the recoil of the gun had caused that. I later decided that was in the wrong direction. It was not the recoil of the gun but I did notice this scar on the box.

Thank you Colin.....   So the lead detective ( J.C.Day) deduced that the scar had nothing to do with the assassination.   ( And he was correct ) and yet that scar was included in the Warren Commission disinformation to continue to create confusion ......

Walt when I read the testimonies I alway try to put myself in the witnesses position at the time they describe. What did they know at that time? Understanding of events always evolve due to false but understandable contemporary assumptions. I believe all those who were in the SN just after Mooney's discovery assumed that the sniper shot while JFK approached the building, ie front on. It was only after more information was accumulated that this idea was abandoned as a theory. Day is the one who tells us this in his testimony, their initial assumption was wrong. Who knows when that happened. Was it after Brennan and or Ewins made statements?

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt when I read the testimonies I alway try to put myself in the witnesses position at the time they describe. What did they know at that time? Understanding of events always evolve due to false but understandable contemporary assumptions. I believe all those who were in the SN just after Mooney's discovery assumed that the sniper shot while JFK approached the building, ie front on. It was only after more information was accumulated that this idea was abandoned as a theory. Day is the one who tells us this in his testimony, their initial assumption was wrong. Who knows when that happened. Was it after Brennan and or Ewins made statements?

Day is the one who tells us this in his testimony, their initial assumption was wrong. Who knows when that happened.

Who knows when Day opened his eyes?.....  I do....  It's perfectly clear that Day wasn't part of the conspiracy to murder JFK....But it's also perfectly clear that Day fell in line behind Captain Fritz's orders.    Day had no idea what was happening until Fritz told him that Chief Curry was following orders from Washington, and he ( Day)  had better wake up and follow orders....  Day started getting the message when he took the carcano to the police station at about 3:00 pm.   

[Colin Crow]

Day is the one who tells us this in his testimony, their initial assumption was wrong. Who knows when that happened.

Who knows when Day opened his eyes?.....  I do....  It's perfectly clear that Day wasn't part of the conspiracy to murder JFK....But it's also perfectly clear that Day fell in line behind Captain Fritz's orders.    Day had no idea what was happening until Fritz told him that Chief Curry was following orders from Washington, and he ( Day)  had better wake up and follow orders....  Day started getting the message when he took the carcano to the police station at about 3:00 pm.

Once the FBI acquired key material evidence that evening he fell in line.

[Walt Cakebread]

Once the FBI acquired key material evidence that evening he fell in line.

Yes, You're right....  Day did not disassemble the Carcano and discover a palm print on the 5/8" diameter metal barrel,but after Henry wade had told the whole wide world that they had found Lee Oswald's prints on the Carcano Day was obligated ( He wanted to continue receiving a nice paycheck, and enjoying the green grass from above the surface)  to swear that he had found the print on the metal barrel of the rifle.   

PS... Personally I doubt that Detective Day had the mechanical ability to disassemble the Carcano .......