A Guilty Man

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: A Guilty Man
« Reply #84 on: December 31, 2019, 08:23:18 PM »
Yes!  That must be it!  And the very stable bullet that, before it was deviously switched for CE 399, had entered Kennedy's upper back at about 2100 feet per second, damaged his rib, exited his throat, entered Connally's back, exited his chest, broke his wrist, and ended up shallowly embedded in his thigh MUST have lost oodles and gobs of lead and been mutilated like a Mo-Fo, right, "Mr. Prove It"?

Cool story, bro. Too bad you can’t prove that it’s actually true.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: A Guilty Man
« Reply #85 on: December 31, 2019, 08:27:11 PM »
Walter,

How do you know it didn't lose at least 2 grains of mass?

Predictable.

So now we’re back to Walt’s original question. How do you know that CE 399 “lost 2 to 3 grains of lead”?

Or did you just make it up?

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: A Guilty Man
« Reply #86 on: December 31, 2019, 08:29:58 PM »
CT Pulp Fiction Central starts with the assumption that CE399 couldn't have possibly traversed both victims,

I don’t know who that is.

But “possible in some contrived scenario” does not equal “that’s what happened”.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: A Guilty Man
« Reply #87 on: December 31, 2019, 09:49:19 PM »
I don’t know who that is.

But “possible in some contrived scenario” does not equal “that’s what happened”.

OMG

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: A Guilty Man
« Reply #88 on: December 31, 2019, 10:46:52 PM »
Predictable.

So now we’re back to Walt’s original question. How do you know that CE 399 “lost 2 to 3 grains of lead”?

Or did you just make it up?

Iacoletti,

Do you believe the bad guys would have planted a nearly pristine bullet in the hospital, and try to make us believe it had done all that damage to JFK, or, if you prefer, to just JFK or to just Connally?

Wouldn't it have made more sense for them (gasp ... Jack Ruby?) to put a damaged, lighter-than-original bullet there?

Do you believe CE 399 is nearly pristine?  Do you believe it didn't lose any lead?

LOL

--  MWT ;)
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Offline Alan Hardaker

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Re: A Guilty Man
« Reply #89 on: January 01, 2020, 01:50:51 AM »
CE399 was not in pristine condition. It was compressed and misshapen. And experiments carried out replicated the damege CE399 did. Showed clearly that one bullet could take the path that CE399 took. Also the MC was of being a sufficiently capable rifle to achieve the required accuracy. And Oswald was a good enough shot to carry out the shootings.

Timing wise he had 5.4 seconds from the throat shot to the head shot. So that particular time slot for those two shots starts with the throat shot..then Oswald has 5.4 seconds to reload, take careful aim and make a direct hit to JFK's head. Frame 313 clearly shows the bullet exploding out the front of JFK's head.


Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: A Guilty Man
« Reply #90 on: January 01, 2020, 03:17:42 AM »
CE399 was not in pristine condition. It was compressed and misshapen.
If you fired the same bullet...with the same gun... into the air...and it fell to earth...into a soft marsh... it would most likely look very much like CE 399.
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And Oswald was a good enough shot to carry out the shootings.
How could you possibly know that? There was a church shooting here in Texas this past weekend that completely put down the crack shot idea [leaving a former lawman dead]