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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #77 on: December 12, 2019, 02:03:04 PM »
The SBT has really been established as the Single Bullet fact in the minds of most who have studied it.  Of course, there will always be deniers but that goes with everything. The SBT fits. Nothing else does. At least not credibly anyway.

It may fit your theory, but that doesn't make it an established fact. It only makes it your opinion.

Just as it is my opinion, after having studied it, that there are way too many unresolved variables to call it anything other than a convenient theory.

The SBT fits. Nothing else does. At least not credibly anyway.

What else has ever seriously been officially investigated that did not fit?

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #78 on: December 12, 2019, 02:44:29 PM »
It may fit your theory, but that doesn't make it an established fact. It only makes it your opinion.

Just as it is my opinion, after having studied it, that there are way too many unresolved variables to call it anything other than a convenient theory.

What are the unresolved variables?

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The SBT fits. Nothing else does. At least not credibly anyway.

What else has ever seriously been officially investigated that did not fit?

For one, they looked at a "three shots fired, three shots hit" scenario. That didn't fit. The better question would be "What other possible scenarios have been looked at that did fit?" I've seen numerous attempts made but most of them are farcical.

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #79 on: December 12, 2019, 03:47:53 PM »
What are the unresolved variables?

For one, they looked at a "three shots fired, three shots hit" scenario. That didn't fit. The better question would be "What other possible scenarios have been looked at that did fit?" I've seen numerous attempts made but most of them are farcical.

What are the unresolved variables?

The exact positions of Kennedy and Connally relative to each other at the moment of the shot(s), the exact posture of Kennedy at the moment of the shot(s), the exact location of the car at the moment of the shot(s). There has been 56 years of discussions about this and there is still no mutual agreement.

For one, they looked at a "three shots fired, three shots hit" scenario.

The "three shots fired" scenario is just about the only thing they ever looked at. The "three shots hit" scenario was the initial assumption until they found they only had two bullets left to account for all the wounds which of course was why the SBT was concocted.

The better question would be "What other possible scenarios have been looked at that did fit?" I've seen numerous attempts made but most of them are farcical.


Numerous attempts? Really... pray tell which official investigative body did them?

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #80 on: December 12, 2019, 03:55:57 PM »
The SBT has really been established as the Single Bullet fact in the minds of most who have studied it.  Of course, there will always be deniers but that goes with everything. The SBT fits. Nothing else does. At least not credibly anyway.

 The SBT fits. Nothing else does. At least not credibly anyway.

Of course!!....  there are tens of thousands of murder mysteries in which the facts fit the conclusion..... They are FICTION.    The SBT is FICTION...

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #81 on: December 12, 2019, 04:49:42 PM »
Well, critics have fired Carcano bullets nose-on at full-velocity into cow bones and proclaimed it was under the same conditions as the bullet that struck Connally's wrist.

They concluded that since they got mushroomed bullets then the "pristine" Magic Bullet had no part in the assassination. As far as they're concerned, they have tested the theory and have physical proof through testing that it is "stupid" or "miraculous".


Jerry,

Are you aware of a test where a Carcano bullet at any velocity was fired into bones and ended up near pristine as CE399?

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #82 on: December 12, 2019, 05:13:46 PM »

The exact positions of Kennedy and Connally relative to each other at the moment of the shot(s), the exact posture of Kennedy at the moment of the shot(s), the exact location of the car at the moment of the shot(s). There has been 56 years of discussions about this and there is still no mutual agreement.


We don't need to know those variables to exactness to be able to say whether the SBT works or not. We know them to approximation. The SBT works within those measured judgments.

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The "three shots fired" scenario is just about the only thing they ever looked at. The "three shots hit" scenario was the initial assumption until they found they only had two bullets left to account for all the wounds which of course was why the SBT was concocted.

They looked for evidence of more than three shots but couldn't find any. The SBT wasn't concocted. It was a conclusion reached after a thorough consideration of the evidence.

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Numerous attempts? Really... pray tell which official investigative body did them?

Not official investigative bodies. Kook theorists mostly. Usually more than three shots involved , from multiple directions.

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #83 on: December 12, 2019, 05:15:01 PM »
Jerry,

Are you aware of a test where a Carcano bullet at any velocity was fired into bones and ended up near pristine as CE399?

I don't know about Jerry, but I am.