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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Domingo Benavides
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2019, 12:50:16 AM »
Can we take Roberts' comments to the bank without verification? Let's not forget that Officer Baker, who have far better eyesight, also said Oswald had a jacket on and Whaley claimed that he was wearing one, if not two, also.

Baker was referring to the man that he encountered on an upper floor who was walking away from the stairs....He was not referring to Lee Oswald when he described the man who did not fir the description of Lee Oswald.  And Please don't use Whaley....I don't believe Lee was even in his taxi....He said that his passenger was wearing a BLUE worThe Lithping Larry Grayson "Oooh Shut That Door" doppleganger's type jacket.

Hardly sufficient to determine what exactly he was wearing.

Have you read her affidavit?....  She seems very certain about seeing Lee leave the rooming house while zipping up a DARK COLORED Jacket...

Yes I have read Roberts' affidavit and if you want to take that at face value, you are more than welcome to do so....

I have serious doubts about what parts of Roberts' story are true or not.

Feel free to ignore that she had poor eyesight and was blind in one eye, feel free to ignore that her employer said she made up things and wasn't always truthful, feel free to ignore that she was paying more attention to getting the TV to work, which means she had her back turned to the living room and feel free to ignore that it took less than 5 seconds to walk the distance between Oswald's room and the front door, thus narrowing the time span she had to make her observation, but I will require a bit more than "she said so in her affidavit".
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Domingo Benavides
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2019, 12:58:46 AM »
Yes I have read Roberts' affidavit and if you want to take that at face value, your more than welcome to do so....

I have serious doubts about what parts of Roberts' story are true or not.

Feel free to ignore that she had poor eyesight and was blind in one eye, feel free to ignore that her employer said she made up things and wasn't always truthful, feel free to ignore that she was paying more attention to getting the TV to work, which means she had her back turned to the living room and feel free to ignore that it took less than 5 seconds to walk the distance between Oswald's room and the front door, thus narrowing the time span she had to make her observation, but I will require a bit more than "she said so in her affidavit".

Martin She not only said it in her affidavit ...reconfirmed it her testimony to the WC.     Damned if I can understand why you want to discredit her....  She's a valuable asset for us.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Domingo Benavides
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2019, 01:14:25 AM »
Martin She not only said it in her affidavit ...reconfirmed it her testimony to the WC.     Damned if I can understand why you want to discredit her....  She's a valuable asset for us.

Actually, I am not sure who "us" is. Secondly, I am not out to discredit anybody. I don't have an agenda, nor do I have a predetermined conclusion. I just call it as I see it. For me it's all about the evidence and the facts derived thereof.

Having said that, I don't think Roberts is an valuable asset at all, not for the CTs but also not for the LNs. She is IMO in fact one of the weakest witnesses in this entire saga. You may not agree with me on this one, Walt, but it is my opinion that Earlene Roberts would have been destroyed by even a mediocre defense attorney, had this case ever gone to trial. I seriously doubt any prosecutor would have taken the risk of calling her as a witness to begin with.


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Domingo Benavides
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2019, 01:30:31 AM »
Actually, I am not sure who "us" is. Secondly, I am not out to discredit anybody. I don't have an agenda, nor do I have a predetermined conclusion. I just call it as I see it. For me it's all about the evidence and the facts derived thereof.

Having said that, I don't think Roberts is an valuable asset at all, not for the CTs but also not for the LNs. She is IMO in fact one of the weakest witnesses in this entire saga. You may not agree with me on this one, Walt, but it is my opinion that Earlene Roberts would have been destroyed by even a mediocre defense attorney, had this case ever gone to trial. I seriously doubt any prosecutor would have taken the risk of calling her as a witness to begin with.

You're right.....in believing that she is not  a sterling witness.... But when it comes to something as simple as the color of the jacket that she saw Lee donning....I don't believe that is open to debate....  It not like she described a particular color....  She merely said the jacket was dark colored...   You sure as hell couldn't call the WHITE jacket that the WC tried tp tell us was Lee Oswald's Jacket. ( Marina said that Lee didn't own a white Jacket)    My Point:.....Nobody ( even if their vision was badly impaired.)....could see a WHITE jacket and call it a "dark colored jacket" .


Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2019, 04:35:40 AM »
Oswald had a jacket;

According to his half-blind landlady who was fooling with her TV at the time.

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then he didn't.

I’m not sure what, if anything, you think that proves...

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Domingo Benavides
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2019, 09:32:43 AM »
Yes, but does that really mean Oswald did indeed leave the roominghouse with a jacket? Can we take Roberts' comments to the bank without verification? Let's not forget that Officer Baker, who had far better eyesight than Roberts, also said Oswald had a jacket on and Whaley claimed that he was wearing one, if not two, also.

How does one zip up a shirt as they go out the door?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Domingo Benavides
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2019, 03:20:25 PM »
  Can we take Roberts' comments to the bank without verification?             
I've always wondered...who else was present and saw Oswald come in and leave the rooming house?  Was Ms Roberts all alone?
Why have a Benavides topic anyway? Everything about him was already done to exhaustion months ago   :-\