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[Jerry Freeman]

..... she saw him leave again a few minutes later, while donning a dark colored jacket.

If Oswald was indeed wearing a 'dark colored jacket' what ever happened to that dark colored jacket?

[Martin Weidmann]

Walt, a witness is either credible or isn't.

I don't believe that......  A witness may not be 100% reliable but they certainly are reliable on the basics......  And Mrs Robertscertainly knew that she had seen Lee Oswald enter the rooming house at 1:00PM  and she saw him leave again a few minutes later, while donning a dark colored jacket.

If that's what you want to believe....

Just one comment though; Roberts never said that she saw Oswald in a dark colored jacket. She actually said that the jacket she had seen was darker than CE 162. There is a difference.

[Martin Weidmann]

If Oswald was indeed wearing a 'dark colored jacket' what ever happened to that dark colored jacket?

Good question and the reason why I don't understand why Walt so desperately wants to believe Earlene Roberts.

[Walt Cakebread]

If that's what you want to believe....

Just one comment though; Roberts never said that she saw Oswald in a dark colored jacket. She actually said that the jacket she had seen was darker than CE 162. There is a difference.

Just one comment though; Roberts never said that she saw Oswald in a dark colored jacket.

Martin, I asked you if you'd read Mrs Roberts affidavit , and you said that you had read it.....  Perhaps you should read it again....while paying attention to what Roberts said about the Jacket that she saw Lee donning.

[Martin Weidmann]

Just one comment though; Roberts never said that she saw Oswald in a dark colored jacket.

Martin, I asked you if you'd read Mrs Roberts affidavit , and you said that you had read it.....  Perhaps you should read it again....while paying attention to what Roberts said about the Jacket that she saw Lee donning.

Walt,

Patronizing doesn't become you.

Mrs. ROBERTS. He went to his room and he was in his shirt sleeves but I couldn't tell you whether it was a long-sleeved shirt or what color it was or nothing, and he got a jacket and put it on---it was kind of a zipper jacket.
Mr. BALL. Had you ever seen him wear that jacket before?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I can't say I did---if I did, I don't remember it.
Mr. BALL. When he came in he was in a shirt?
Mrs. ROBERTS. He was in his shirt sleeves.
Mr. BALL. What color was his shirt? Do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't remember. I didn't pay that much attention for I was interested in the television trying to get it fixed.
Mr. BALL. Had you ever seen that shirt before or seen him wear it---the shirt, or do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't remember---I don't know.
Mr. BALL. You say he put on a separate jacket?
Mrs. ROBERTS. A jacket.
Mr. BALL. I'll show you this jacket which is Commission Exhibit 162---have you ever seen this jacket before?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, maybe I have, but I don't remember it. It seems like the one he put on was darker than that. Now, I won't be sure, because I really don't know, but is that a zipper jacket?


Feel free to quote the part of her testimony where she describes that jacket as "dark colored"

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt,

Patronizing doesn't become you.

Mrs. ROBERTS. He went to his room and he was in his shirt sleeves but I couldn't tell you whether it was a long-sleeved shirt or what color it was or nothing, and he got a jacket and put it on---it was kind of a zipper jacket.
Mr. BALL. Had you ever seen him wear that jacket before?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I can't say I did---if I did, I don't remember it.
Mr. BALL. When he came in he was in a shirt?
Mrs. ROBERTS. He was in his shirt sleeves.
Mr. BALL. What color was his shirt? Do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't remember. I didn't pay that much attention for I was interested in the television trying to get it fixed.
Mr. BALL. Had you ever seen that shirt before or seen him wear it---the shirt, or do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't remember---I don't know.
Mr. BALL. You say he put on a separate jacket?
Mrs. ROBERTS. A jacket.
Mr. BALL. I'll show you this jacket which is Commission Exhibit 162---have you ever seen this jacket before?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, maybe I have, but I don't remember it. It seems like the one he put on was darker than that. Now, I won't be sure, because I really don't know, but is that a zipper jacket?


Feel free to quote the part of her testimony where she describes that jacket as "dark colored"

Martin, I was not being patronizing....I politely asked you to re-read Mrs Roberts' AFFIDAVIT ....NOT her testimony.

Since you clearly don't want to read Mrs Roberts' AFFIDAVT ....  I'll copy her statement from her affidavit.   

Quote:....."Oswald went to his room and was only there a few minutes before coming out.  I noticed he had a jacket he was putting on. I recall the jacket was a DARK COLOR and it was the type that zips up the front."....unquote

[Martin Weidmann]

Martin, I was not being patronizing....I politely asked you to re-read Mrs Roberts' AFFIDAVIT ....NOT her testimony.

Since you clearly don't want to read Mrs Roberts' AFFIDAVT ....  I'll copy her statement from her affidavit.   

Quote:....."Oswald went to his room and was only there a few minutes before coming out.  I noticed he had a jacket he was putting on. I recall the jacket was a DARK COLOR and it was the type that zips up the front."....unquote

Martin, I was not being patronizing....I politely asked you to re-read Mrs Roberts' AFFIDAVIT ....NOT her testimony.

Okay, my bad. I have been talking about her testimony and didn't really notice that you were talking about her affidavit.

I agree that in her affidavit she does indeed say that Oswald left in a jacket of dark color, but the affidavit wasn't executed until December 5th. By then she had been exposed to days of media reports which may have influenced her recollection.

But, let's say for argument's sake that Oswald did in fact leave the rooming house in a dark colored jacket? The first question would be, where did he get it? Marina testified that he only had two jackets. One was found at the TSBD and the other one was the grey jacket now in evidence as CE 162.

The second question that needs to be answered is; where did he leave that dark colored jacket? I think we can agree that he wasn't wearing a jacket when he was arrested at the Texas Theater, so where did it go?