Is This Our Man?

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #126 on: November 20, 2019, 12:29:39 AM »
Alan,

Assuming that Parking Lot Tan Jacket Man (PLTJM) was the man Amos Euins saw in the sixth floor window, what must PLTJM have been looking at to permit Euins' noticing the "bald spot" or "white mark" we seem to be seeing on the top of PLTJM's head?

Do you think PLTJM's head would have been tilted down enough for that particular observation if he'd been watching the limousine right after the fatal head shot, or would it have to have been closer to horizontal (or more?)?

--  MWT  ;)

Let's ask Mr Euins!

Mr. EUINS. I seen a bald spot on this man's head, trying to look out the window. He had a bald spot on his head. I was looking at the bald spot. I could see his hand, you know the rifle laying across in his hand. And I could see his hand sticking out on the trigger part. And after he got through, he just pulled it back in the window.

Maybe he was checking out the windows below where Messrs Norman & Williams were? Or the street below? We'll never know for sure!

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #127 on: November 20, 2019, 12:36:26 AM »
Now! Is it conceivable that witnesses getting a fleeting glimpse of this man-----------



------------might later confuse him with Mr Oswald?

Absolutely.

An awful lot of boxes being ticked here, friends...  Thumb1:

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #128 on: November 20, 2019, 12:43:21 AM »
Now! Unless Tan Jacket Man is handing off something to the man in blue, then we have to conclude that this really is just a hand:



In which case, we can rule out this fellow in Bell-------who is carrying something in his left hand--------as Tan Jacket Man:



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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #129 on: November 20, 2019, 12:52:32 AM »
Now! Unless Tan Jacket Man is handing off something to the man in blue, then we have to conclude that this really is just a hand:



In which case, we can rule out this fellow in Bell-------who is carrying something in his left hand--------as Tan Jacket Man:



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Alan,

It's too bad you can't "freeze frame" the GIF.

If you could, we might be able to determine:

1)  Whether or not he's wearing a hat

2)  How long his jacket it.

Imho, PLTJM is wearing a leather jacket, or at least a jacket that's made of a fairly shiny material.  Ditto the guy walking across the grass.

!!!!!!!

--  MWT  ;)

Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #130 on: November 20, 2019, 03:09:00 AM »
Mr  Graves,

Alan is suffice. Given the mention/reference to a Texas Highway Patrolman in that page 15 quote I shared previously, I'm left to wonder if the driver of Vice-President Johnson's car, Texas  Highway Patrol Joe Henry Rich weighed in with that 50 seconds.

Of course, in fairness to researchers like the late Mr. Marrs (Jim, RIP): Mr. Weisberg (Harold, RIP); and Mr. Palamara (Vince), it would be worthwhile to read anything they have authored about witnesses who actually saw the limo come to a stop. Include researcher Greg Burnham as well because I believe he cites none other than CBS News Anchor Walter Cronkite reporting the limo coming to a complete stop.

There is even an instance, where Hugh Betzer, in a same day 11/22/63 Sheriff's Dept. affidavit mentions multiple times within that document the limo came to a stop. The point here sir is that what really happened that fateful afternoon has been tainted by a hastily contrived script amid a bogus timeline sequence of events and "evidence" to frame the wrongly accused.

Appreciate the question. but in fairness to the OP, Mr. Ford, I respectfully move we return our chief focus back to the theme of the thread., "Is This Our Man?"

Lots going on behind that picket fence during the immediate aftermath of the treasonous ambush of a duly elected representative of the people.

IIRC, FWIW, it is my understanding that the LincolnConvertible carrying VP LyndonJohnson, Mrs Lyndon"LadyBird"Johnson, and Senator RalphYarborough, was piloted by TexasHighwayPatrolOfficer HurchelJacks (1929-1995).


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #131 on: November 20, 2019, 10:51:32 AM »
!!!!!!!

Alan,

It's too bad you can't "freeze frame" the GIF.

If you could, we might be able to determine:

1)  Whether or not he's wearing a hat

2)  How long his jacket it.

Imho, PLTJM is wearing a leather jacket, or at least a jacket that's made of a fairly shiny material.  Ditto the guy walking across the grass.

!!!!!!!

--  MWT  ;)

Yes, the jackets are certainly similar. But Bell Man is clearly carrying something sizeable enough, whereas Hughes Man------unless he hands something off to the man in blue------is not. In which case: not the same person!  Thumb1:

Offline Mark A. Oblazney

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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #132 on: November 20, 2019, 11:44:20 AM »
Yes, the jackets are certainly similar. But Bell Man is clearly carrying something sizeable enough, whereas Hughes Man------unless he hands something off to the man in blue------is not. In which case: not the same person!  Thumb1:

You are 'tilting at windmills', sir..... careful you don't fall down, cervantes+