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Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
Alan Ford:
--- Quote from: Zeon Mason on November 02, 2019, 12:31:01 AM ---
Alan, if you cannot see that prayerblob is almost a whole head lower than BW Frazier which cannot be explained by perspective as per the John Mytton analysis using a computer perspective program. I have no doubt John Mytton has saved all his work for the last 10 years and will happy to post it all again right here in this thread :)
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The John Mytton analysis using a computer perspective program? You mean, you have actually fallen for that garbage?
Look at PrayerManInDarnell's right elbow, Mr Mason, and its distance to the redbrick. Then compare Mr Mytton's 'reading' of PrayerManInDarnell! :D
--- Quote ---Given that even most of the remaining faithful Prayerblob=Oswald advocates accept that Prayerblob appears obviously too short to be a 5'9" Oswald even if he was standing at the very BACK of the corner, the only remaining argument left was Stancaks placement with one foot on lower step and one foot on top landing and that has been also shown by measurements to be not probable.
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Why is Mr Stancak's suggestion for PrayerMan's posture the only possible solution? Mr Stancak has incorrectly read the radiator behind the glass door as Mr Oswald's left leg. We don't have to!
If you disagree, Mr Mason, how about you prove to us that PrayerMan could not possibly have both feet on the first step down, or one foot on that step and the toes of the other foot resting on the landing? Thumb1:
--- Quote ---So now, Alan, what exactly is your CURRENT argument, because it appears to me at least that you are suggesting that prayerblob is Bill Shelley in Wiegman? But then afterwards, when Shelley and Lovelady appear to have moved away and walking away from the steps, that prayerblob is now Oswald?
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You know what my current argument is, Mr Mason, because I have explained it to you in the clearest possible terms several times. But------like your fellow members of Team Keep LHO Away From That Entranceway At All Costs-------you keep playing dumb and seeking 'clarification'. And then, when shown the relevant images, you claim to be 'confused'.
You are fooling nobody!
So! Prove that what I am saying about Mr Oswald's being right behind Mr Lovelady in Wiegman is wrong. Show us your counter-explanation for this---------
---------and for the magic dark 'shadow' down Mr Lovelady's right side in this-----------
Go Team Keep LHO Away From That Entranceway At All Costs! Thumb1:
Jerry Freeman:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on October 31, 2019, 10:12:17 PM --- Maybe you have limited experience with multi floored structures? I have worked at structures 11 stories tall. 1 continuous stairway ALL the way up is common. I never said anything about there being an issue of "navigation". You mention some "fire concerns". Short and simple, if you look at images of the massive amount of junk scattered hither and yon inside the TSBD, that place Was a Fire Trap.
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After further review...there is a separate staircase around the corner of the entrance that went up to the second floor to a maze of offices and hallways. As far as 'my experience' goes...the TSBD was built as a farm machinery warehouse in around 1910. So, in modern buildings, we know that usually the first access to upper floors are elevators. Presently, the old TSBD are Dallas County offices [except for the museum areas]
Alan Ford:
Friends, it has been claimed by Mr Stancak that this is Ms Pauline Sanders in the Darnell film (yellow box):
But! A viewing of this frame in context (the penultimate frame here below) shows not only that this one-frame phenomenon is not Ms Sanders but that...................it's not even a head!
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Mike Orr:
The fact that Oswald had a coca cola seemed to mess up the timeline as to what Oswald was able to do within the timeline if he was said to have shot JFK and hide the rifle and then make his way down to the lunchroom and already have a Coca cola ! Marion Baker thought that his timeline from the end of the shooting to the time of his face to face meeting with Oswald with his pistol drawn was 90 seconds . Someone seems to have Oswald doing a lot from the end of the shots to the meeting of Baker and himself in the lunch room . Oswald seemed to have the metabolism of a slow moving person but yet we are led to believe this guy was a mover and a shaker ! I don't think Baker lied but I'm not real sure about Truly !
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Mike Orr on February 13, 2020, 03:13:07 AM ---The fact that Oswald had a coca cola seemed to mess up the timeline as to what Oswald was able to do within the timeline if he was said to have shot JFK and hide the rifle and then make his way down to the lunchroom and already have a Coca cola ! Marion Baker thought that his timeline from the end of the shooting to the time of his face to face meeting with Oswald with his pistol drawn was 90 seconds . Someone seems to have Oswald doing a lot from the end of the shots to the meeting of Baker and himself in the lunch room . Oswald seemed to have the metabolism of a slow moving person but yet we are led to believe this guy was a mover and a shaker ! I don't think Baker lied but I'm not real sure about Truly !
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FWIW.... Mike..... Both Baker and Truly started lying when it became apparent that Lee couldn't possibly have been at the SE corner of the sixth fllor and firing a rifle out of the window at !230, and then be in the 2nd floor lunchroom drinking a Coke at 12:31 :30. They were bent on framing Lee Oswald, and they lied to accomplish that objective.
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