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Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?

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Jerry Freeman:

--- Quote from: Royell Storing on October 31, 2019, 03:18:07 PM ---   The TSBD had a screwy floor plan concerning the stairs. The stairwell that Baker/Truly entered on the ground floor ended/emptied onto the 2nd Floor. Baker/Truly had to travel several feet on the 2nd floor to gain access to another stairwell which went Up from that point on the 2nd Floor. They could have become separated while moving on the 2nd floor amidst switching from one stairwell to the other.

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The TSBD floor plan shows the stair well plans go up/down floor by floor on the far NW corner....
This was necessary for fire concerns. The entire floors' plans can be seen here....Scroll to the bottom of the page-------
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/tsbd-photographs-and-floor-plans.html 
There was nothing "screwy" about the stairs at all. A child could navigate them.  The 4th floor for example---- 
 


 
 

 

Walt Cakebread:

--- Quote from: Jerry Freeman on October 31, 2019, 08:45:10 PM ---The TSBD floor plan shows the stair well plans go up/down floor by floor on the far NW corner....
This was necessary for fire concerns. The entire floors' plans can be seen here....Scroll to the bottom of the page-------
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/tsbd-photographs-and-floor-plans.html 
There was nothing "screwy" about the stairs at all. A child could navigate them.  The 4th floor for example---- 
 


 

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This is the floor where Baker said that he saw a man "walking away from the stairs " ( Baker said that it was either the third or fourth floor)  You can see that it probably was not the fourth floor where Baker saw the man because the area was mostly open storage space.
There were several women on the fourth floor looking out of the windows toward the railroad yard. If Baker had encountered the man on the fourth floor those women could not have failed to notice .....   It didn't happen on the fourth floor....and the third floor was only one floor up from where he had encountered Lee Oswald, so it's highly unlikely that Baker would say either the third or fourth floor....I suspect that Baker should have said that he saw the man on either the fourth or fifth floor....and I believe it was the fifth floor where Baker saw the man and commanded that he come over to where Baker was at the top of the stairs.   



Royell Storing:

--- Quote from: Jerry Freeman on October 31, 2019, 08:45:10 PM ---The TSBD floor plan shows the stair well plans go up/down floor by floor on the far NW corner....
This was necessary for fire concerns. The entire floors' plans can be seen here....Scroll to the bottom of the page-------
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/tsbd-photographs-and-floor-plans.html 
There was nothing "screwy" about the stairs at all. A child could navigate them.  The 4th floor for example---- 
 


 
 

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     Maybe you have limited experience with multi floored structures? I have worked at structures 11 stories tall. 1 continuous stairway ALL the way up is common.  I never said anything about there being an issue of "navigation".  You mention some "fire concerns". Short and simple, if you look at images of the massive amount of junk scattered hither and yon inside the TSBD, that place Was a Fire Trap.

Alan Ford:

--- Quote from: Walt Cakebread on October 31, 2019, 02:27:24 PM ---A couple of weeks after the coup d e'tat, the magazine US News and World Report published a story hat included an interview of Roy Truly. Truly gave a description of the second floor lunchroom encounter with Lee Oswald that is quite different than the version that was handed us by LBJ's cover up committee.
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Mr Truly and Officer Baker were given an invented second-floor lunchroom story to tell, and they were unable to keep that story straight!  Thumb1:


--- Quote ---Wouldn't be great if Mr Scully would post the story that appeared in US News and World report .....

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Don't hold your breath, Mr Cakebread... Mr Scully is actively hostile to those working to establish Mr Oswald's alibi. His off-topic nonsense in this thread being just the latest example!

Jerry Freeman:

--- Quote from: Alan Ford on October 31, 2019, 10:56:03 PM ---Huh? Explain how you arrived at the 5'3" height determination please!   
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Well..see how short he looks here----- Officially, they say that is Oswald and Marina [5' 3"] must be standing on a rise in the pavement.
 
 

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