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« Reply #126 on: November 12, 2019, 01:11:31 PM »
Mr. BALL. Yes. What did you do after you had sent the officers to Irving?
Mr. FRITZ. When I started to talk to this prisoner or maybe just before I started to talk to him, some officer told me outside of my office that he had a room on Beckley, I don't know who that officer was, I think we can find out, I have since I have talked to you this morning I have talked to Lieutenant Baker and he says I know maybe who that officer was, but I am not sure yet.
Mr. BALL. Some officer told you that he thought this man had a room on Beckley?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Had he been brought into the station by that time?
Mr. FRITZ. He was at the station when we got there, you know.
Mr. BALL. He was?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir; so then I talked to him and I asked him where his room was on Beckley.
Mr. BALL. Then you started to interrogate Oswald, did you?
Mr. FRITZ. yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. Was there anything said about where he lived?
Mr. FRITZ. Where he lived? Right at that time?
Mr. BALL. Yes.
Mr. FRITZ. I am sure I had no way of asking him where he lived but I am not too sure about that--just how quick he told me because he corrected me, I thought he lived in Irving and he told me he didn't live in Irving. He lived on Beckley as the officer had told me outside.

Oswald told him after the officer.

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Mr. BALL. Up to that time you hadn't sent any men out to North Beckley, had you?
Mr. FRITZ. Well, I sent them out there real soon and Officer Potts called me back from out there and talked to me on the telephone and gave me a report from out there on the telephone, and I am sure that that is the time that he told me about the way he was registered, and I asked Oswald about why he was registered under this other name.
Mr. BALL. What other name?
Mr. FRITZ. Of O. L. Lee.

Seems reasonably clear that an officer told Fritz about the room on Beckley before the interrogation started. The question is what time was it when he was told? What address did Cody claim Oswald told him? Was it Oak Cliff or Irving? As for Cunningham....."apparently" is hardly convincing.


Here are some additional words from Cunningham in the interview by Larry Sneed:

The North Beckley address was located near the intersection of Zang and Beckley in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas. It was a fine home, probably 4,500 square feet with a huge living room and kind of a passageway which adjoined a dining room. This lady had several roomers. In fact, when we went in and asked her if she had a guy by the name of Lee Harvey Oswald rooming there, she told us, no. After we began describing him, she said, “Well, there’s a young man and his wife who live out there,” referring to a little house out behind her home. As we checked that place, she came running out and said, “They just showed that fellow’s picture on television. He has this room right here. I think he goes by the name Lee.”

If I remember correctly, it was Mr Johnson that was watching the television coverage and saw LHO’s picture for the first time. So, if it can be determined what time his picture was first broadcast on each network (like the times his name was first broadcast), then this would be a clue.

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« Reply #127 on: November 12, 2019, 01:32:01 PM »

Here are some additional words from Cunningham in the interview by Larry Sneed:

The North Beckley address was located near the intersection of Zang and Beckley in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas. It was a fine home, probably 4,500 square feet with a huge living room and kind of a passageway which adjoined a dining room. This lady had several roomers. In fact, when we went in and asked her if she had a guy by the name of Lee Harvey Oswald rooming there, she told us, no. After we began describing him, she said, “Well, there’s a young man and his wife who live out there,” referring to a little house out behind her home. As we checked that place, she came running out and said, “They just showed that fellow’s picture on television. He has this room right here. I think he goes by the name Lee.”

If I remember correctly, it was Mr Johnson that was watching the television coverage and saw LHO’s picture for the first time. So, if it can be determined what time his picture was first broadcast on each network (like the times his name was first broadcast), then this would be a clue.

I was watching NBC and I think it was around 3pm the first photo of him entering the station was shown. I could be wrong. Maybe it was the Dallas coverage.

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« Reply #128 on: November 12, 2019, 01:57:32 PM »
NBC was the last of the three networks to broadcast his name (3:20 PM). Watching this video, it would appear that very soon after that, they had the information about his adventure in Russia. Take a look at about the 2:33:45 mark.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2oJmFGgfM3zNDdrTWhhYVBXRzA/view

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« Reply #129 on: November 12, 2019, 03:30:48 PM »
No, Marina told him nothing of the kind. "Translator" Ruth Paine did..
Also...supposedly...Ruth Paine knew nothing about the rifle :-\
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Mrs. PAINE - I heard on the television that he had purchased a rifle.
Mr. JENNER - When?
Mrs. PAINE - I heard it on November 23.
Did Ruthie--- "gasp"?     :D

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« Reply #130 on: November 12, 2019, 05:22:03 PM »
Also...supposedly...Ruth Paine knew nothing about the rifle :-\Did Ruthie--- "gasp"?     :D

Why did dear Ruthie have the date of "LHO purchase of rifle"  marked on her calendar??

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« Reply #131 on: November 12, 2019, 06:11:33 PM »
I was watching NBC and I think it was around 3pm the first photo of him entering the station was shown. I could be wrong. Maybe it was the Dallas coverage.

I watched the NBC coverage and it hadn't yet shown Oswald's photo as of 4:16 PM CST. However, the CBS coverage does show Oswald at the DPD just before 3:30 PM CST. Dan Rather is commenting. Immediately after the brief view of Oswald they show what appears to be the revolver and some ammunition.

I will try to view the ABC coverage next...


Edit: Here is the link to the CBS coverage video, LHO can be seen at about the 3:00:05 mark:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8UwZ588YcqIM2QxZ09BRHpSWnM/view
« Last Edit: November 12, 2019, 06:15:50 PM by Charles Collins »

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« Reply #132 on: November 12, 2019, 07:18:49 PM »
I watched the NBC coverage and it hadn't yet shown Oswald's photo as of 4:16 PM CST. However, the CBS coverage does show Oswald at the DPD just before 3:30 PM CST. Dan Rather is commenting. Immediately after the brief view of Oswald they show what appears to be the revolver and some ammunition.

I will try to view the ABC coverage next...


Edit: Here is the link to the CBS coverage video, LHO can be seen at about the 3:00:05 mark:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8UwZ588YcqIM2QxZ09BRHpSWnM/view

After viewing the ABC coverage, it appears that they were the first to broadcast LHO's picture at the DPD. This happened at approximately 3:21 PM CST. They broadcast him just briefly as he entered through a door from a corridor and named him also. Bill Lord was commenting. Here is a link to the video. You can find this at about the 2:29:43 mark:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Nx0_rEoKWcO8LJyRV7Lf9ahh9TiIRHAc

Edit: I think I jumped the gun a little bit. This video has apparently been edited and this part of the broadcast appears to be much later. Jay and Bill Lord are discussing time frames and this looks to have been broadcast close to 8:00 PM CST. My mistake.
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