Ruth Paine QA 9/22 at Texas Theatre JFK assassination film premiere

[John Iacoletti]

So again no explanation for why Oswald thought he might be killed or arrested on that night or any other night or in the relevant time period.

This is Strawman "Smith's" usual shtick of shifting the burden of proof.  His interpretation of the alleged "Walker note" wins unless somebody can prove otherwise.

If there were any doubt about why he thought that might be the case, he TOLD Marina what he had done.

Sure, just like he "told Marina" that he was going to go take a look at Nixon.

  And the note is not the only piece of evidence.  For example, Oswald also had a photo of Walker's home.

Oswald had it?  Really?  They found it on Oswald?

  But we are told there is nothing to see here.  It is all the product of lies, fakery and no logical inferences can be drawn.

Who said anything about lies and fakery, Strawman "Smith"?  An unsigned, undated note that says nothing about Walker or killing can be 100% authentic and have nothing to do with Walker or killing.

And the alternative narrative for all this evidence is left to our imagination.

As opposed to your narrative, which is the product of your imagination.  Oops, I mean "logical inference".

[Walt Cakebread]

Richard Ding-Dong replay.

he TOLD Marina -- LOL

Oswald also had a photo of Walker's home (and a Chevy with the license plate cut out) -- LOL

false doubt -- LOL

Oswald also had a photo of Walker's home (and a Chevy with the license plate cut out)

True, The photos of Walkers house were in the blue notebook ( binder) that Lee had used to compile his false dossier.... But the hole in the photo was created after the photo was in the hands of the authorities.

[Richard Smith]

Richard Ding-Dong replay.

he TOLD Marina -- LOL

Oswald also had a photo of Walker's home (and a Chevy with the license plate cut out) -- LOL

false doubt -- LOL

Very valuable contribution.  So much substance -- LOL.   

[John Iacoletti]

Not any less substantive than:

"Marina said"
"Oswald's rifle"
"false doubt"
"fantasy conspirators"
"logical inference"
"common sense"
"no doubt"
"alternative narrative"

[Richard Smith]

So again long winded deflections but no explanation for why Oswald (or anyone in the Paine household if you prefer) would leave a note in Russian explaining what to do if they were arrested or killed.  Not even an attempt.  Here we have someone questioning a note found in a book in the Paine residence.  Not just some random note found on Mt. Everest.  Written in Russian and explaining what to do in the event this person was killed or arrested.  We also have Marina's testimony that Oswald TOLD her that he fired the shot at Walker and the note was left by him.  This was a small household.  Do you think Ruth Paine believed that she might be arrested or killed for baking brownies?  And she would write a note in Russian explaining what to do in that contingency?  Who in that small household meets the criteria contained in the note?  Did Paine or Marina, for example, have personal papers from the "military" that they did not want thrown out?  Just ignore and revert back to the lazy argument that it is not a signed confession (which wouldn't satisfy the contrarian either since he doesn't accept handwriting analysis as evidence unless it comes from John Wilkes Booth in which case it proves his guilt).  Round and round.  It never ends.   Then there is additional evidence such as the photo of Walker's home.  But there is somehow doubt because it is not signed and dated by the assassin?  Wow.  I hope that if I ever commit a serious crime that a rube like this is on the jury.  Imagine the lunacy of suggesting that Oswald must have signed, dated, and specifically referenced shooting Walker to link the note to that event.  The only thing left out is having it notarized by the Pope.  That's an embarrassing and intellectually dishonest line of argument. 

Bottom line:  There were three adults who resided in the Paine residence where the note was found.  So which of these three had cause to believe they would be killed or arrested and need to provide instructions for someone else via a note written in Russian?  Which of these three had a post office box?  Which of these three had cause to tell the person left behind to seek assistance at an "Embassy"?  What type of event would precipitate information being included in "newspaper clippings"?  Who was paying "house rent"?  Who had personal papers from the "military"?  The note was found in a book belonging to the Oswalds from Paine's residence.  It is written in Russian.  LHO is the only person in that household who meets all the criteria contained in the note.  There is zero doubt that he wrote it unless you are suggesting it is an outright fake for the purpose of framing him (i.e. product of a conspiracy).  And once you accept the obvious conclusion that LHO was the author of the note it begs the question as to what event he was contemplating in advance that might lead to his arrest or death that would be reported in the newspaper.  Think real hard and I bet you can come up with one.

[Jerry Freeman]

So again long winded deflections but no explanation for why Oswald (or anyone in the Paine household if you prefer) would leave a note in Russian explaining what to do if they were arrested or killed.  Not even an attempt. 

Because it is stupid. You make the stupidest posts on the internet. Re-read it. What to do if THEY are arrested...Who is they? The Paines? Go back and fix it. Or better yet, just post some pictures of the kids and let it go.

[John Iacoletti]

Do you think Ruth Paine believed that she might be arrested or killed for baking brownies?  And she would write a note in Russian explaining what to do in that contingency?  Who in that small household meets the criteria contained in the note?

How the hell should I know?  You're the one around here who makes up stories and calls it evidence.  There is just as much evidence (ie. none) that George deMohrenschildt was the one who wrote the note or took a shot at Walker.

  Did Paine or Marina, for example, have personal papers from the "military" that they did not want thrown out?  Just ignore and revert back to the lazy argument that it is not a signed confession (which wouldn't satisfy the contrarian either since he doesn't accept handwriting analysis as evidence unless it comes from John Wilkes Booth in which case it proves his guilt).

Wrong again, Strawman "Smith".  There was no handwriting "analysis" in the Booth case.

Round and round.  It never ends.   Then there is additional evidence such as the photo of Walker's home.

Evidence of what?  Aggravated picture taking?

  But there is somehow doubt because it is not signed and dated by the assassin?  Wow.  I hope that if I ever commit a serious crime that a rube like this is on the jury.

You better certainly hope that if you are ever accused of a crime, you won't end up with a jury of rubes like yourself who are convinced by lame arguments like "where's your alternative narrative?"

Bottom line:  There were three adults who resided in the Paine residence where the note was found.

Wrong again, Strawman "Smith".  The alleged "Walker" note (that doesn't mention Walker) was allegedly found by the secret service when they had Marina holed up at Six Flags.

  So which of these three had cause to believe they would be killed or arrested and need to provide instructions for someone else via a note written in Russian?  Which of these three had a post office box?  Which of these three had cause to tell the person left behind to seek assistance at an "Embassy"?  What type of event would precipitate information being included in "newspaper clippings"?  Who was paying "house rent"?  Who had personal papers from the "military"?  The note was found in a book belonging to the Oswalds from Paine's residence.  It is written in Russian.  LHO is the only person in that household who meets all the criteria contained in the note.  There is zero doubt that he wrote it unless you are suggesting it is an outright fake for the purpose of framing him (i.e. product of a conspiracy).  And once you accept the obvious conclusion that LHO was the author of the note it begs the question as to what event he was contemplating in advance that might lead to his arrest or death that would be reported in the newspaper.  Think real hard and I bet you can come up with one.

Is any of this rambling, inaccurate diatribe supposed to prove that Oswald took a shot at Walker, or is that an exercise left to the reader?