Ruth Paine QA 9/22 at Texas Theatre JFK assassination film premiere

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Ruth Paine QA 9/22 at Texas Theatre JFK assassination film premiere
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2019, 12:22:08 AM »
How do you know what night that note was written?

Especially when the guys who "analyzed" the note weren't even familiar with the Russian language or the Cyrillic alphabet.

Tell us why one has to know a particular language or alphabet when comparing shapes, spacing similarities, etc...

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Ruth Paine QA 9/22 at Texas Theatre JFK assassination film premiere
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2019, 01:28:19 AM »

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https://aarclibrary.org/the-jfk-case-the-twelve-who-built-the-oswald-legend-part-11-the-paines-carry-the-weight/
THE JFK CASE: THE TWELVE WHO BUILT THE OSWALD LEGEND (Part 11: The Paines Carry the Weight)
by Bill Simpich (Originally published 12/21/2014)

...Who is Ruth Paine, formerly married to Michael? Like Michael, Ruth Hyde Paine s an avowed pacifist. Her parents were Unitarians, and her mother was a minister. She joined the Quakers in 1951. Ruth became active with the East-West Contacts Committee through the Quakers, a society of pen pal correspondence with the Soviet Union that led her to the study of Russian in 1955. [xxvi] Ruth’s activity with the East-West Contacts Committee led her to organize a 2500 mile walk in 1957 by five Americans and three Russians. This included working with the Committee of Soviet Youth Organizations. [xxvii]
Ruth also worked on an American-Russian student exchange organized by this committee in 1958, taking an active role in making the travel arrangements for the Russian visitors.  https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10869&relPageId=10

The Paines told the Warren Commission that Ruth was a prominent committee member, but never addressed who was Ruth’s contact with the State Department to get the travel arrangements done.
I think she had such a contact, and the contact’s probable identity tells us a lot. The Director of East-West Contacts within the State Department, Frederick Merrill, stated his approval of this 1958 exchange. [xxviii] Merrill worked with the Free Europe Committee, which funded Radio Free Europe and other projects to ensure the flow of funds to Soviet exile groups. [xxix] Michael Paine allowed that Ruth may have written the State Department to set up this exchange. [xxx] The next year, Merrill informed the chief of CIA East-West Contacts that the Rand Corporation was asking the State Department about Robert Webster’s whereabouts when he defected to the Soviet Union. [xxxi] Oswald was to follow in Webster’s footsteps just days later.

(Frederick Merrill's father was appointed by Webster's employers H. James Rand's father as president of Remington Rand:

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While Ruth attended Russian classes for seven weeks during the summer of 1959 at Middlebury College in Vermont, Michael landed his classified job at Bell Helicopter in Irving, Texas. Curiously, sources differ on whether it was during January or July 1959. [xxxii] This should have set off alarm bells throughout the intelligence agencies.
When investigating Priscilla Johnson in 1958, CIA security focused on Johnson’s study of Russian at Middlebury College in Vermont during the summers of 1948 and 1950: “The Russian Language Summer School at Middlebury College is staffed almost entirely by teachers from the American-Russian Institute which has been cited by the Attorney General under E.O. 10450.”[xxxiii].....
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Ruth Paine QA 9/22 at Texas Theatre JFK assassination film premiere
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2019, 02:09:10 AM »
Fake bullet
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The bullet used and pictured on the TV, byA116 US Senate G. Robert Blakey Committee on Assassinations is a ridiculous substitute -for a bullet completely mutilated by such obstruction, baring no resemblance to any unfired bullet in shape or form. saw the hunk of lead, picked up by a 'policeman in my house, and I took it from him and I inspected it carefully. There is no mistake. There has been a substitution for the bullet fired by Oswald and taken out of my house.' Lt is requested that you withdraw the substituted bullet from all records and files pertaining to the assassination of John F.' Kennedy and the attempted assassination of Walker, and that you assure the security of the withdrawn bullet for future comparisons. I desire to be informed of'your actions......[Gen Walker]

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Ruth Paine QA 9/22 at Texas Theatre JFK assassination film premiere
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2019, 03:02:34 AM »
Maybe they did and she is a Ruth Paine double.  Her diaper changing, brownie baking façade was a just cover for a cold blooded master spy.  The woman was dynamite.  I bet she even knows Kung Fu.

I heard she was nearly as vicious as Vicki Adams.

-- MWT  ;)

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Ruth Paine QA 9/22 at Texas Theatre JFK assassination film premiere
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2019, 03:55:09 AM »
From the HSCA handwriting findings of David Purtell:

“With regard to the Russian writing on items 23, 56, and 57, this examiner is not familiar with this language and the characteristics of the various writing systems used. (64) It is almost impossible to distinguish between class characteristics and individual characteristics unless the writing styles of a language are known.”

Offline Ted Shields

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Re: Ruth Paine QA 9/22 at Texas Theatre JFK assassination film premiere
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2019, 10:56:12 AM »
No, I believe that Lee fired the bullet through Walker's window....Not AT Walker.... If he had intended to hit Walker he could easily have fired a couple more rounds..(I would remind you that the LNer's believe he fired THREE rounds at JFK)

Oswald thought he hit him. Hence the scrambling around listening to the radio for the news report. I guess Marina lied about that too.

Anyway when is this documentary out?
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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Ruth Paine QA 9/22 at Texas Theatre JFK assassination film premiere
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2019, 01:53:36 PM »
So again no explanation for why Oswald thought he might be killed or arrested on that night or any other night or in the relevant time period.   Just the tired old song and dance about the note not being signed or explicitly referencing an intent to kill Walker.  Oswald was not writing a confession.  He was instructing his wife on what she needed to do should he be arrested or killed.  If there were any doubt about why he thought that might be the case, he TOLD Marina what he had done.  And the note is not the only piece of evidence.  For example, Oswald also had a photo of Walker's home.  But we are told there is nothing to see here.  It is all the product of lies, fakery and no logical inferences can be drawn.  And the alternative narrative for all this evidence is left to our imagination.  Very tired and lazy.  Like a pro bono defense attorney trying to conjure up false doubt about a client that he knows is stone cold guilty.