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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1024 on: December 21, 2019, 07:22:53 PM »
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So, Mr Nickerson, you agree with Mr Mytton that there are not two people but only one person inside this circle, yes?



And do you agree with Mr Mytton that Mr Lovelady is not standing on the steps here?



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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #1025 on: December 21, 2019, 07:26:49 PM »
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Your overlay suggests that Mr Lovelady only ascended and moved towards the middle of the steps after JFK had passed. This makes sense, given that the whole point of moving position would have been to keep eyes on the limousine.

And good lord, if the limo is synced here in Bell with this in Towner-------------



--------------then something very odd seems to be afoot with Mr Lovelady's (non-)image in the latter...
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Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #1026 on: December 21, 2019, 09:09:15 PM »
Game, set and match to Mr. Mytton. That was a  terrific demolition job.  Thumb1:

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Hi Steve and Tim, thanks, the motion blur graphic that refuted the silly "two heads theory" relied on the fact that Lovelady's head was moving down independently from everyone else and here's the proof.





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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1027 on: December 21, 2019, 09:17:45 PM »
Hi Steve and Tim, thanks, the motion blur graphic that refuted the silly "two heads theory" relied on the fact that Lovelady's head was moving down independently from everyone else and here's the proof.





JohnM

John,

Are you still working for the CIA? DiEugenio was on to you. You can't get anything past that guy.  :D

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1028 on: December 22, 2019, 02:33:05 AM »
John,

Are you still working for the CIA? DiEugenio was on to you. You can't get anything past that guy.  :D

Geez, what can I say, I'm busted! :o

I was having a closer look at the people in the "fraction of a second" Lovelady GIF, and they all seem to have at least a slight reaction, the man next to the entrance wall seems to lean back, the lady in black's head similarly seems to lean back, the person in the front with their hand shielding their eyes seems to slightly lower their hand to cover their eyes and Lovelady of course is ducking down. Lovelady's testimony says that he heard the "fireworks" and didn't realize that there was any weapon till later.



Mark Tyler made a GIF showing the P.Parade and when the pictures/films were taken, the graphic's timeline is based on a constant speed of the vehicles and compared to what can can be seen in Zapruder and the films/photographs, so there will be some expected discrepancies of a second or two but it looks to be pretty close. Anyway Mark has the start of Wiegman about half a second before the head shot and allowing for the above expected error tolerances, the above 4 reactions may have been to the sound of the head shot that resulted in Z313?



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« Reply #1029 on: December 22, 2019, 04:00:04 AM »
Geez, what can I say, I'm busted! :o

I was having a closer look at the people in the "fraction of a second" Lovelady GIF, and they all seem to have at least a slight reaction, the man next to the entrance wall seems to lean back, the lady in black's head similarly seems to lean back, the person in the front with their hand shielding their eyes seems to slightly lower their hand to cover their eyes and Lovelady of course is ducking down. Lovelady's testimony says that he heard the "fireworks" and didn't realize that there was any weapon till later.



Mark Tyler made a GIF showing the P.Parade and when the pictures/films were taken, the graphic's timeline is based on a constant speed of the vehicles and compared to what can can be seen in Zapruder and the films/photographs, so there will be some expected discrepancies of a second or two but it looks to be pretty close. Anyway Mark has the start of Wiegman about half a second before the head shot and allowing for the above expected error tolerances, the above 4 reactions may have been to the sound of the head shot that resulted in Z313?



JohnM

Nice find. I wonder how much of those movements have to do with the movement of the camera.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1030 on: December 22, 2019, 04:42:29 AM »
John,

Are you still working for the CIA? DiEugenio was on to you. You can't get anything past that guy.  :D

Nickerson,

Are you and "Jumbo Duh" still working for the humanitarian organization formerly known as "the KGB"?

--  MWT  ;)

PS  Thanks for posting the Wiegman frame showing glasses-wearing Mrs. Robert Reid I mean Jack Ruby's sister in the yellow circle!
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1031 on: December 22, 2019, 05:48:32 AM »
Hi Steve and Tim, thanks,

 :D :D :D

Any other Nutters want to congratulate Mr Mytton on his Important Double Discovery that a) there are not two people but only one person inside this circle-------------



-------------and b) Mr Lovelady is at this instant------------



---------------way back on the doorway landing about to tie his shoelaces in reaction to the sound of gunfire?

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the motion blur graphic that refuted the silly "two heads theory" relied on the fact that Lovelady's head was moving down independently from everyone else and here's the proof.


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Mr Mytton, can you build on your triumphant merging of 2 people into one-------------



----------------by kindly sharing with us the numbers of the two frames you used from this sequence--------------



----------------to come up with this?



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